Federal Election Called for Oct 19, 2015

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Who cares? Why does it matter when you're looking at global problems that require an appropriate allocation of resources to solve long-overdue issues. Why should profit or debt, or money in general, matter in that context?

It matters unfortunately because currency is the means by which we allocate resources in our society.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Makarov

It matters unfortunately because currency is the means by which we allocate resources in our society.

Yes, but in the context of real problems, why should it matter how much it "costs" when what it costs (money) is something that we just made up anyway? The existence of the materials and the knowledge to solve our problems is there, and should be all we need.

It shouldn't matter.

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I find it sad that the niqab is even an issue in Canadian politics in so far as actually swaying someone's vote. I don't see why this one issue should be such a priority that some people will use it to determine whom to vote for. The Conservatives can try to fight it, but the courts are pretty likely to label the banning of the niqab from anywhere in public as unconstitutional. There is no way the CPC or the Bloc can stop it. People can vote on the principle if they want I guess, but it won't change anything.

I am not going to take a side on this, other then to mention that your point is only partly true. Duceppe has already said that they would invoke the constitutional notwithstanding clause, this could be done unilaterally by the Quebec legislature.

"Section 33 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is part of the Constitution of Canada. It is commonly known as the notwithstanding clause (or "la clause dérogatoire" in French), or as the override power, and it allows Parliament or provincial legislatures to override certain portions of the Charter. It was, and continues to be, perhaps the most controversial provision of the Charter.[1]"

[Coach]

I'm fine with banning the niqab in public, if they ban all other religious symbolism in public.

So good luck with that.

[PeteMoss]

Canada's debt level is tiny (per capita or GDP) compared to most first world countries.

Every country in the world carries debt. Its not like Canada is scrounging around each month to find money to pay their credit card bill. They can easily carry the debt they have now. Its not something that's going to be some ultra burden on our kids.

The Conservatives have been able to make running deficits out to be some scary boogeyman thing you have to avoid, but its about the use of the money and its ability to grow the economy.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Yes, but in the context of real problems, why should it matter how much it "costs" when what it costs (money) is something that we just made up anyway? The existence of the materials and the knowledge to solve our problems is there, and should be all we need.

It shouldn't matter.

That is really a topic outside of this election, but basically its how society functions. Say you want to cure cancer - you need scientists, doctors, etc to do it. If you want them to do it - you need to pay them money. Otherwise you'd need to convince these people to do this for the greater good and then you'd also need to convince the farmers to give them food for no money and the builder to build them shelter for free and the lumber industry to give the builder wood for free, etc.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Yes, but in the context of real problems, why should it matter how much it "costs" when what it costs (money) is something that we just made up anyway? The existence of the materials and the knowledge to solve our problems is there, and should be all we need.

It shouldn't matter.

Well, because the materials and knowledge (the relative value of which we measure in currency) are apparently being used to solve other problems or achieve other goals.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

That is really a topic outside of this election, but basically its how society functions. Say you want to cure cancer - you need scientists, doctors, etc to do it. If you want them to do it - you need to pay them money. Otherwise you'd need to convince these people to do this for the greater good and then you'd also need to convince the farmers to give them food for no money and the builder to build them shelter for free and the lumber industry to give the builder wood for free, etc.

I did say it was extreme.

Originally Posted by Makarov

Well, because the materials and knowledge (the relative value of which we measure in currency) are apparently being used to solve other problems or achieve other goals.

Right. And my thought process is that those materials and knowledge are being used for the wrong things because we use profit, and not general progression, as a means of incentive.

Either way, as mentioned by PeteMoss, this is outside the realm of the election, so I will save that stuff for a more applicable time. Like rambling from a wood crate or something.

[Looch City]

Is the debate tonight televised?

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

Is the debate tonight televised?

The Munk Debates will offer a live stream for the bilingual event, with translation. Tonight's debate will also be live streamed on Facebook and carried on CPAC (the Cable Public Affairs Channel) and CHCH.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Oil is done. Get over it. Adapt or die. We had a 100 year run. Stop beibg selfish. You care about future generations you said right? It's killing us environmentally and stagnating us econonically.

Time to grow up as a economy.

Yeah...ummm....no...it really isn't. Not even close actually.

LOL

[rubecube]

What the hell is up this bush league stream?

[rubecube]

This is atrocious.

[Zarley]

I can't get the page to load. Anyone having luck?

[CampbellsTransgressions]

http://livestream.com/Munk-Debates/f...lection-debate

[Zarley]

Originally Posted by CampbellsTransgressions

http://livestream.com/Munk-Debates/f...lection-debate

Thanks.

[Jacks]

30 seconds in and Tom is already talking about Layton.

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Yeah...ummm....no...it really isn't. Not even close actually.

LOL

No kidding. Oil will be done when it's gone.

Nevermind that big money would never allow a complete, abrupt shift away from oil. If Tesla was still around he'd tell you all about JP Morgan and what he thought about wireless (aka no copper wire) power.

...and as it concerns the debate, not even 15 seconds into his opener, Mulcair stirs up ghosts of Jack Layton. Ugh.

[Zarley]

I see Mulcair has already name dropped Jack Layton.

[2Stonedbirds]

Someone should tell Angry Beard that we don't need the UN to make our own decisions.

Hell, why would we need a guy like Tom when we have un-elected officials calling the shots for us at the toothless UN?