CP Federal Election Poll #1

[OBCT]

I dislike Justin Trudeau, and I have strong doubts about his ability to lead this country competently. That said, to my eye him and his party are clearly the least unsavoury options available to Canadians at this time.

I'm hopeful that the Liberals win the upcoming federal election and go on to greatly exceed my expectations while in power. If not, I will happily accept a government which merely "treads water" throughout a term likely to be largely characterized by worldwide economic strife.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I honestly don't know yet.

Same here

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by OBCT

I dislike Justin Trudeau, and I have strong doubts about his ability to lead this country competently. That said, to my eye him and his party are clearly the least unsavoury options available to Canadians at this time.

I'm hopeful that the Liberals win the upcoming federal election and go on to greatly exceed my expectations while in power. If not, I will happily accept a government which merely "treads water" throughout a term likely to be largely characterized by worldwide economic strife.

That's sort of where I'm at. I don't really see how the Liberals can massively eff up the economy in four years, based on their platform. It's likely we either see minor improvements or more of what we've seen from the Conservatives. They're also the best-positioned on social policies.

That said, I'm voting Green because they're the only ones who have a shot at unseating the NDP in my riding.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Delgar

A Calgary based message board with a poll showing the Liberals and Conservatives neck-and-neck is pretty stunning even if it isn't a valid polling method. Shows how much things have changed over time.

I'll be voting CPC in my riding, though were I in Hehr's riding I'd vote for him, Crockat is a weak MP IMHO. Deciding between Harper and Trudeau is nearly a toss-up for me, neither should be PM. I like Mulcair for some very odd reason, but I would never vote NDP even though their platform appears to be trying to move to the right.

Calgary Puck has been pretty accurate in terms of sentiment in recent provincial elections with the only real variance being slightly more fringe party representation.

Hockey is a pretty general thing that would gather a reasonably diverse sample though it does skew wealthier then normal.

Also leaning liberal. Harper's anti data approach to things disgusts me. And is one area he is supposedly the defender of Oil and economy he has failed at. (not that oil prices are his fault but no pipelines, a negative view of oil sands globally, and foreign investment limits in oil companies all hurt the industry significantly)

[FLAMESRULE]

I should be a PC voter (married, white, no kids, work in O+G, fairly well off). But they have done so much damage to Canada and our reputation. The NDP would be very bad for Alberta.

No pipelines nationally or internationally
No long form census data for informed decisions
No climate change policy and very little economic support for a future green industry
So many contempt/fraud charges surrounding our democratic institutions (voting, senate, etc.)
Limited to no response on Syrian refugees
Terrorist Boogeyman BS and the ridiculous niqab issue (they already show their face to an immigration officer
Destruction of the environmental protection of our water
C51...a terrible bill
Etc. Etc. Etc.

Ideology should have no part in good governance in a country as educated and modern as ours. Yet we've neutered our entire decision making ability and had criminals try to keep/take power. Enough.

Plus Trudeau has wicked flow...that alone wins me over.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE

Plus Trudeau has wicked flow...that alone wins me over.

Yeah. With Harper's Lego gone wrong hair and Mulcair's creepy uncle look, Trudeau wins easily

[Looch City]

Harper must get his hair style advice for Trump. That can't be good.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

Harper must get his hair style advice for Trump. That can't be good.

Hair advice isn't the only advice he receives from extreme Republican types. I'm sure of it.

[evman150]

Interesting results so far:

Libs 27
Cons 22
NDP 4
Green 2

Obviously it's a tiny sample, but the lack of NDP support is pretty stark. I'm also surprised that me and Rube are the only Green supporters, though that's likely due to where we live/vote.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by GGG

Hockey is a pretty general thing that would gather a reasonably diverse sample though it does skew wealthier then normal.

Well... I'm pretty sure that CP as a sample of the population is probably wealthier, younger, and more male then the average voter.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by evman150

Interesting results so far:

Libs 27
Cons 22
NDP 4
Green 2

Obviously it's a tiny sample, but the lack of NDP support is pretty stark. I'm also surprised that me and Rube are the only Green supporters, though that's likely due to where we live/vote.

I voted for them in the past and am a paying member, but not this time. Unless the party I picked messes up badly, then they are my fall back.

[MarchHare]

I normally call myself a blue Liberal (although my support for the party has been much less enthusiastic since Martin stepped down as leader). I've tended to dislike the NDP for the same reason I dislike the Harper-led Conservatives: they're extremists who govern based on ideology, not based on facts and rationality. I prefer a moderate government that enacts legislation that makes sense and can be supported by research and data. In previous elections, I would have ranked the parties thusly: Liberal > Conservative > NDP. Harper's government has been so thoroughly distasteful, though, with their utter contempt for any and all research, science, statistics, and information-based decision-making, that I would strategically vote for the local candidate in my riding with the best chance of defeating the Conservatives, even if that meant holding my nose and voting for the NDP.

Thankfully, I live in Calgary Centre (Kent Hehr's riding), so my decision this election is an easy one.

[rubecube]

I'm also a little surprised at the results so far. Mainly I thought the NDP would be a little higher and the Liberals a little lower.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I'm also a little surprised at the results so far. Mainly I thought the NDP would be a little higher and the Liberals a little lower.

I'm surprised too, but for different reasons. I thought the Conservatives would be in front (albeit by a small margin). The NDP being low doesn't surprise me much.

[Caged Great]

For me

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Conservatives

[zamler]

Originally Posted by puckedoff

A blend of Liberal and CPC policies would be ideal party...
Minimal taxes, make up the revenue by legalizing dope and spend the excess on schools/infrastructure... (guess you could say thats a (wait for it).... "pipe" dream! )

Progressive Liberal Party of Canada?

[kirant]

I'm also on the side of the Liberals but willing to jump back and forth in terms of party support right now. I'm closest to them ideologically and Harper's seeming campaign against science really irks me.

Not sure it'll matter though as I live in Nose Hill, Rempel's riding. It seems like a really safe bet, if not a sure thing, for the PC.

[zamler]

So where are all the NDP supporters here? I thought there would be way more.

[Cube Inmate]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

... they're extremists who govern based on ideology, not based on facts and rationality. I prefer a moderate government that enacts legislation that makes sense and can be supported by research and data.

I don't quite get this line of thinking -- please explain a bit more. Why is it a bad thing to campaign and govern based on a certain "ideology?" Isn't that just a framework that one uses to understand and connect ideas together, and help govern one's actions? I can certainly understand that you may not agree with a certain ideology, but at least the Cons (in the past) and the NDP have been able to relatively clearly express what they believe in.

Frankly, that's one thing that's always been lacking for me in the Liberal party; they can't express any particular ideology that guides their thinking and decision-making, instead trying to live in the wishy-washy middle. As such, I can't even predict (for many issues) what kind of response they would have as a government.

It's not as if economics and social policy are proper sciences, where you can take facts & data and come to a "correct" conclusion. They are social non-sciences, where individual values and experiences greatly affect what people consider to be the best thing. In such a case, I want to know what ideologies my leaders happen to hold.

For the record, my vote will go either Con (if JT can't manage to demonstrate some maturity), Lib (if I come to believe that JT is mature enough), or "Protest" (if I can't get over the stink of the above options).

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Hair advice isn't the only advice he receives from extreme Republican types. I'm sure of it.

How do you feel about Trudeau gathering influence from the Democrats on strategy and demographic targeting in order to win an election?