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Old 09-25-2015, 03:15 PM   #61
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You know you're doing well when you get your frickin' thread.
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Old 09-25-2015, 03:17 PM   #62
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You don't sign or re-sign someone to a multi-year contract and then trade them before they even play one game under that contract. BT would be poisoning contract talks moving forward with both free agents and existing players.
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Old 09-25-2015, 03:20 PM   #63
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You don't sign or re-sign someone to a multi-year contract and then trade them before they even play one game under that contract. BT would be poisoning contract talks moving forward with both free agents and existing players.
A one year deal is a multi-year deal? I'm sure Ramo knew full well nothing was guaranteed.
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Old 09-25-2015, 03:22 PM   #64
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You don't sign or re-sign someone to a multi-year contract and then trade them before they even play one game under that contract. BT would be poisoning contract talks moving forward with both free agents and existing players.
What is this in reference to? Hiller's contract is expiring this season, Ramo was re-signed to a 1 year deal this summer, and Ortio's contract is expiring this season.
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Old 09-25-2015, 03:49 PM   #65
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That's probably why the Flames gave him 3.8. The uncertainty of whether he would remain a Flame. He gets paid either way, so it's no big deal where he goes or stays.
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Old 09-25-2015, 03:53 PM   #66
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Friken indeed! Ortio reminds me of Kipper in so many ways and I really hope he can grab the starting job this year. I don't ever care about getting a trade return for Hiller at the moment, just put him on waivers ASAP!

Also, I am very confused, can someone please clarify if I am allowed to call him Joni Oreo? Is it okay as long as it's not in the thread title or I don't mention Oreo cookies? Does this also apply to Johnny Hockey and Skittles?
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Old 09-25-2015, 06:37 PM   #67
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Friken indeed! Ortio reminds me of Kipper in so many ways and I really hope he can grab the starting job this year. I don't ever care about getting a trade return for Hiller at the moment, just put him on waivers ASAP!

Also, I am very confused, can someone please clarify if I am allowed to call him Joni Oreo? Is it okay as long as it's not in the thread title or I don't mention Oreo cookies? Does this also apply to Johnny Hockey and Skittles?
A total of 1 poster got his panties in a bunch over it. You are fine to call him Oreo.

The whole goalie thing makes me uncomfortable though. Each of Hiller and Ramo should greatness and inconsistency throughout the year, and despite Ortio's apparent talent, he is unproven.

My gut tells me Hiller is going to be moved and BT will roll the dice with Ortio and Ramo, but may even pickup another vet goalie to play minors just in case.
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Old 09-25-2015, 08:07 PM   #68
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How about "Ramortio" for the tandem of Finnish goalies?
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Old 09-25-2015, 09:43 PM   #69
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From what I've read recently, Hartley prefers Ramo to Hiller:

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How about "Ramortio" for the tandem of Finnish goalies?
Ortamo.
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Old 09-25-2015, 10:06 PM   #71
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Absolute statement? Sure it is, it has to be. Everything between the two statistically and career wise says so. Hiller is better than Ramo, always has been, thats a fact. No way around it. And since we're talking absolutes here. How about the other side of the coin where for the past 2 months almost everyone around here spoke in absolutes that Hiller was the odd man out. More so than the Hiller side. I piped up last night during the game because it was getting ridiculous about how much a forgone conclusion it was that Ortio was after Hillers job and Not Ramo's.

At the end of the day, the real goaltending battle lies betwen Hiller and Ramo for one spot. The other I am more than confident is Ortio's.

IMO, you want the experience Hiller brings to the table paired with Ortio. Consider it the very dame reasoning they went with the Ramo/Hiller Tandem last year, Because Ramo had to prove himself consistently, and since he didn't Hiller was there eating up the starts. If Ramo was better or the coaches had more faith in Ramo, he'd have gotten more starts.
Is that why Ramo was drafted into the NHL while Hiller was an unsigned. Hiller might have been better at one point but he sure as hell isn't right now.

Hiller was going to get starts last year, he was going to be the guy who let Ramo ease into the action but instead it went the other way. Hiller had some outstanding games which really made his numbers look better then what they were. He's an inconsistent goalie who doesn't have the quickness or the athletic ability. Once he goes down he stays down.

Here's my theory on 3 in 3 nights:
Ortio goes with AHL D on the road so he can prove himself
Hiller gets stacked D so they can show he can be a decent goalie behind good D
Ramo likely gets much lesser roster tomorrow on the road

To me that looks like getting Ortio and Ramo to play the tough situations and upping whatever value Hiller has.

I agree with you that it's going to be Ortio + Hiller/Ramo but my money's on Ramo.
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