[News] Patrick Kane being investigated for rape. UPD: DA announces no charges

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

pfft will likely be a Law and Order:SVU episode next week.

You are probably right. The player will be named Podrick Keane.

[MBates]

I think the tweeters may have missed some of the most important parts of the DA press conference:

“It’s a dog-and-pony show,” Erie County District Attorney Frank Sedita said at a news conference on Friday.

The last few days have seen information about purported DNA evidence leaked to the media, accusations of evidence tampering and claims that a rape kit collected from Kane’s accuser was delivered anonymously to the home of the complainant’s mother. The tampering allegations took a twist on Thursday when the attorney representing the complainant suddenly pulled himself from the case because of “ethical obligations.”

On Friday, Sedita said his office had established that the mother of the complainant was behind an “elaborate hoax” that threatens to end the investigation.

“The question in my mind is not when this case will go to a grand jury. The question in my mind is if it will go to a grand jury,” Sedita said. “There will be one of two actions taken by this office:this case will either be administratively closed, as other cases have been, or this case will be presented to the grand jury.

Sedita said the complainant’s mother will likely not be prosecuted — “It is not a crime in the state of New York to make fraudulent representations to a private person,” he said — but added that he would “scour the law” to see what can be done. Either way, the complainant now finds herself under investigation.

“New questions arise,” Sedita said. “And now I have to figure out where we go from here. What do we do with this new information? Obviously, there’s been an effort to create a hoax. Obviously, there’s been an effort to manufacture a perception that forensic evidence cannot be trusted. I have to figure out who’s in on that and why they would do that and what it means vis-à-vis all the other evidence.

When asked if the any involvement by the complainant in what her mother reportedly did could affect the case, Sedita said, “it sure doesn’t help.”

“If the investigation further reveals the complainant was somehow involved in this, knew about this, that could be very relevant,” Sedita said. “We haven’t got to that point yet.”

http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/...ng-allegations

The DA speaks for the very first time about this case...forced to by false allegations made by a lawyer who apparently was not smart enough to call the DA before declaring on national TV what he "knew" about the evidence bag...and he:

1. calls the events a dog and pony show
2. indicates the elaborate hoax threatens to end his investigation into Kane
3. says this case might get administratively closed (like any old case might)...openly wondering IF it is a case that should even go to a grand jury
4. indicates the complainant is now under an official investigation
5. acknowledges (while allowing the lingering "new questions" to swirl) that any involvement or knowledge on the part of the complainant in the mother's hoax could be "very relevant" and "sure doesn't help" the prosecution.

All of the foundation is laid to make a later announcement that the case is closed.

An elected DA running this case now and losing it (after all of the gong show it has become) would have to be very concerned he would look foolish and lacking in any common sense or judgment.

[GioforPM]

I can't disagree with any of that. Which means:

1. The victim just got screwed by her mom. OR 2. The victim was in on it.

Neither of which necessarily means that a rape didn't occur - but casts doubt. They could have just been trying to ensure a win, or covering up a lie. Who knows.

[Locke]

Yeah, that was a CYA presser, they're going to can this whole clown show in a hearbeat.

If I was involved in this investigation I'd be pissed that people were screwing around. The Police and the DA are getting embarrassed.

And if Kane gets exonerated out of all of this and finds out that this girl and her family were manipulating evidence, screwing with the system and whatever else I'd be seriously considering mercilessly suing the hell out of them.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Locke

Yeah, that was a CYA presser, they're going to can this whole clown show in a hearbeat.

If I was involved in this investigation I'd be pissed that people were screwing around. The Police and the DA are getting embarrassed.

And if Kane gets exonerated out of all of this and finds out that this girl and her family were manipulating evidence, screwing with the system and whatever else I'd be seriously considering mercilessly suing the hell out of them.

I doubt that wuold happen, unless it was clear that the evidence totally exonerated him, because then they'd defend and counterclaim by saying it did happen. Years of litigation.

BTW, I think the girl must have been involved in at least covering for her mom, because her lawyer doesn't need to resign if just the mom lied to him.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I doubt that wuold happen, unless it was clear that the evidence totally exonerated him, because then they'd defend and counterclaim by saying it did happen. Years of litigation.

BTW, I think the girl must have been involved in at least covering for her mom, because her lawyer doesn't need to resign if just the mom lied to him.

Oh I know it depends on a whole plethora of factors, but if circumstances and evidence were strong enough and I were obscenely rich enough I could imagine myself easily being vengeful enough.

Again, on the assumption that he actually didnt do anything wrong, considering the accuser's side seems to be the one playing games with lawyers and law enforcement it really casts serious doubts pertaining to her credibility and thus the credibility of her accusation.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Locke

Oh I know it depends on a whole plethora of factors, but if circumstances and evidence were strong enough and I were obscenely rich enough I could imagine myself easily being vengeful enough.

Again, on the assumption that he actually didnt do anything wrong, considering the accuser's side seems to be the one playing games with lawyers and law enforcement it really casts serious doubts pertaining to her credibility and thus the credibility of her accusation.

It has happened before, I admit:

http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/r...for_defamation

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...e-allegations/

It just seems to me that he'd not want to drag it out like that if he was now off the hook.

Plus, damages would be hard to prove. I guess a lost endorsement with EA.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It has happened before, I admit:

http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/r...for_defamation

It just seems to me that he'd not want to drag it out like that if he was now off the hook.

Plus, damages would be hard to prove. I guess a lost endorsement with EA.

Screw damages, those are usually made up numbers anyways, just go for legal fees.

Those alone are probably pretty hefty at this juncture and, if it were me, it isnt even about recouping any costs.

Anyways, thats enough on that train of thought, it isnt really productive.

[VladtheImpaler]

So.... in the end

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Locke

If I was involved in this investigation I'd be pissed that people were screwing around. The Police and the DA are getting embarrassed.

I don't understand what the mother was thinking she insulted the very people that will potentially prosecute Kane. Very very strange.

[pylon]

The biggest victim of this if the accuser is involved in a hoax/moneygrab, is the women that do have a legitimate complaint against a perpetrator. Not Patrick Kane.

I can already see the Cosby attorneys foaming at the mouth ready to say "See! All women report false rape!111!1!1!!!1"

I have an issue with the misogynists in this thread that will ultimately say "I told you so." As anyone with a brain knows this is the exception to the norm. But if the allegations of tampering turn out to be founded, it does give their side some relevance. Like it or not.

It's almost like there needs to be some sort of legal contract that is required to be signed for the protection of both parties before any type of physical interaction, kinda sad.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by pylon

The biggest victim of this if the accuser is involved in a hoax/moneygrab, is the women that do have a legitimate complaint against a perpetrator. Not Patrick Kane.

I can already see the Cosby attorneys foaming at the mouth ready to say "See! All women report false rape!111!1!1!!!1"

I have an issue with the misogynists in this thread that will ultimately say "I told you so." As anyone with a brain knows this is the exception to the norm. But if the allegations of tampering turn out to be founded, it does give their side some relevance. Like it or not.

It's almost like there needs to be some sort of legal contract that is required to be signed for the protection of both parties before any type of physical interaction, kinda sad.

There are days that I like being married and days I really really like being married.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by pylon

The biggest victim of this if the accuser is involved in a hoax/moneygrab, is the women that do have a legitimate complaint against a perpetrator. Not Patrick Kane.

I can already see the Cosby attorneys foaming at the mouth ready to say "See! All women report false rape!111!1!1!!!1"

I have an issue with the misogynists in this thread that will ultimately say "I told you so." As anyone with a brain knows this is the exception to the norm. But if the allegations of tampering turn out to be founded, it does give their side some relevance. Like it or not.

It's almost like there needs to be some sort of legal contract that is required to be signed for the protection of both parties before any type of physical interaction, kinda sad.

If it is a false accusation, chances are it was because she's unstable or felt used and wanted revenge, or perhaps to cover up an infidelity from a boyfriend. If there'd been a previous relationship that would be the biggest liklihood, but that's not the case here. A money grab is probably the least likely.

[polak]

The fact that the mom is involved makes think that a money grab is most likely.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by polak

The fact that the mom female is involved makes think that a money grab is most likely.

Fixed to be consistent with your previous posts.

[Parallex]

Yeah... this is such a gong show now that I would be surprised if charges are laid.

[MBates]

Kane's lawyer's presser last night wearing a t-shirt...not so subtle communication he's feeling relaxed about this case?

http://sportsmockery.com/2015/09/liv...rence-tonight/

[greentree]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Submitted without comment:

http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/...437/story.html

That is a quite the POS column.

Worse, the columnist (Cam Cole) takes the latest revelations today and does a complete 180, and says hey, whaddya know, reasonable doubt is a good thing after all. Without, of course, daring mention his hang him high, screw due process position 24 hours earlier.

Conclusion: I'm done with Cam Cole. Idiot.

[polak]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Fixed to be consistent with your previous posts.

lol you're pathetic. These revelations must really make you mad with your staunch defense of this accuser and your consistent assumptions that Kane is guilty despite no charges being laid.... because hey, how could she lie.

[Serapth]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Plus, damages would be hard to prove. I guess a lost endorsement with EA.

Besides, I'd be more likely to sue EA, they actually have money and are the ones that threw him under the bus.


To all the "guilty until proven innocent crowd", how's the crow tasting?