[News] Patrick Kane being investigated for rape. UPD: DA announces no charges

[mikephoen]

They just use a random brown paper bag for something as important as a rape kit? That might be the most insane thing to come out of this whole thing so far.

[GGG]

Does DNA matter in this case?

Is Kane going to go with the we didn't have sex defence? If not DNA doesn't matter.

Would Kane gave made any statement to the police or just refused to cooperate? If he made a statement already then DNA or lack there of probably doesn't matter

[atb]

Was reading speculation elsewhere that the paper bag might have been the bag that held the rape kit from the hospital to the Hamburg PD. The Hamburg PD performed testing, and then sealed the kit in another bag. The original bag used for the hospital transfer should have been disposed of appropriately, which doesn't seem to have happened.

[sureLoss]

Looks like people have figured out her name from pictures of the packaging from the lawyer's press conference

Expect a lot of slut shaming on social media

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yes and every time I enter the Flames forum to see what's new with the Flames or the next Oilers fan to come and troll I'm greeted by the bumping of the Kane Rape thread. I don't like the topic and I hate the constant reminder. It's my opinion. If the mods don't share it fine but I feel this thread should be moved to the off topic forum.

So we shouldnt have discussion about a nhl star that may have committed a violent crime because it make you uncomfortable? Give me a break .

[doctajones428]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yes and every time I enter the Flames forum to see what's new with the Flames or the next Oilers fan to come and troll I'm greeted by the bumping of the Kane Rape thread. I don't like the topic and I hate the constant reminder. It's my opinion. If the mods don't share it fine but I feel this thread should be moved to the off topic forum.

Then don't enter the thread...?

[Poe969]

I think all EE is saying is that the FOI forum is generally about hockey and hockey related topics. This thread hasn't been about hockey since the early pages. I guess you could say that because it involves a hockey player it belongs here but I actually agree with EE, this isn't about hockey and it's about an extremely uncomfortable topic. As I've mentioned, someone very close to me was sexually assaulted and I don't like the topic either as it reminds me of bad situations and people's suffering. I do check on the thread randomly because I honestly can't wait for this to be done with just so I don't have a constant reminder about it every time I'm looking at thread titles. I'd check in on it randomly if it was in the off topic forum but because it's always here, always reminding us about it, we have no choice on whether we see it or not. If we enter the thread or not, we still have to be reminded about it because it's here. Shouldn't have said what I said, didn't really make sense at all.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Poe969

There are threads about rape in the off topic forum, if this belongs here then so do they I guess.

Why?
It is pretty simple. Those threads are about rape. This thread is about rape with a hockey component. It is a fair debate about where it should go, but just because this thread is here doesn't mean all rape threads should be. That makes no senses.
I think it is pretty easy to stay out of the thread if people don't want to discuss or read about it.

[Poe969]

I know, I was just going to say that you could relate anything to hockey if you really wanted. I don't think those belong here though, but I don't believe this belongs here either. It's easy to stay out of the thread but it's impossible to avoid it. As I mentioned before, the topic of rape is sensitive and brings up a lot of negativity in some people and every time you go to the FOI forum, this thread is near the top. You come in here to talk hockey and just get away from everything but hockey and you can't help but see this. I agree about the not staying silent so someone can be comfortable but this is the same as going to hockey game and getting into a debate about rape. Sure it's a topic that should be discussed but some people just want to go to a hockey game.

[GreenLantern2814]

"Everything pertaining to the Calgary Flames and the NHL in general". The 3rd most important piece of the first dynasty of the modern NHL stands accused of a horrible crime.

The thread belongs here.

[Poe969]

This thread isn't about hockey in general and hasn't been for a long time. The outcome of what happens belongs here as it is about the 3rd most important piece of the first dynasty of the modern NHL but pages about crime evidence and the legal meaning of rape and most other things in about 60 pages of this thread have nothing to do with hockey.

Result of everything belongs, the arguments about what leads to them don't.

[Erick Estrada]

I find it extremely odd in a self proclaimed Flames hockey forum above all else to the point it removed a thread in its off topic forum that was about posting non-nude pictures of a attractive females would keep a hot button rape thread not involving a Flame as a focal thread in its Flames discussion. Don't see it in HF team forums and as Flames fan I don't think I should have to see it at the very top topics every time I'm looking for Flames news. I think this is simply a topic that should be discussed in a non Flames forum and I find it extremely depressing it's getting more attention in this forum than most Flames threads. This is a rape case thread not a hockey thread and I hope common sense prevails here.

I don't like rape or the topic and I don't appreciate the constant reminder if it when looking for Flames news. If you really believed the removal of the other thread was done in mind to make the Flames forum a friendlier place for females then you can't have a thread discussing rape unless you believe female Flames fans don't actually come here for Flames talk/news and prefer to read forum experts go back and forward daily about a rape topic.

[Moderator]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I find it extremely odd in a self proclaimed Flames hockey forum above all else to the point it removed a thread in its off topic forum that was about posting non-nude pictures of a attractive females would keep a hot button rape thread not involving a Flame as a focal thread in its Flames discussion. Don't see it in HF team forums and as Flames fan I don't think I should have to see it at the very top topics every time I'm looking for Flames news. I think this is simply a topic that should be discussed in a non Flames forum and I find it extremely depressing it's getting more attention in this forum than most Flames threads. This is a rape case thread not a hockey thread and I hope common sense prevails here.

I don't like rape or the topic and I don't appreciate the constant reminder if it when looking for Flames news.

If you have further concerns, please contact the moderator.

You have stated a number of times that you don't like seeing the thread and the only thing we can suggest is not clicking on the topic.

Thank you.

[RougeUnderoos]

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[The Fonz]

Should the Brodie thread be in off-topic because it's actually about a broken bone in his hand, not about hockey?
Should the Richards thread be in off-topic because it's actually about drug abuse/charges, not about hockey?

No. This thread, along with the others involving hockey players, all have an affect on their hockey careers and this league, and so are very obviously hockey related. Just because it is a negative subject, does not mean it should be relegated to a forum where you can better ignore it. It's an easy solution... scroll past the thread.

[justafan]

"I don't like rape or the topic". "Some one close to me was sexually assaulted. I don't like the reminder." Then there is a comment that discussing rape would not make this a "friendly" place for women. actually women would like to think people care about the subject. Ignoring doesn't make it go away. This is a star in the NHL, and my sensitive female brain can handle the topic. I also have family member violently assaulted.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Moderator

If you have further concerns, please contact the moderator.

You have stated a number of times that you don't like seeing the thread and the only thing we can suggest is not clicking on the topic.

Thank you.

Revolutionary!

Don't know how you guys come up with this stuff.

[Poe969]

Yes, an NHL star is being accused of rape. That comment is probably the most relevant comment to hockey in the past 10 pages. This forum is supposed to be about anything that pertains to hockey...how many comments are actually about hockey in this thread? Sure you can say they're about the case which is about hockey but you can relate almost anything to hockey that way. Treat this forum like going to a hockey game and talking to the general public, walk into an arena and start talking about the legal definitions of rape, the judicial system, and most everything else talked about in this thread and people will get annoyed and try to focus on hockey. Talking about Brodie's broken bone or what's going on with Richard's contract and you'll likely have a conversation because it's actually hockey related.

This thread hasn't been about hockey in a long time and it seems like the people who want to keep discussing the things in here are the social justice warriors who know everything about the law.

No one said anything about it being a friendly place for women or brought up your "sensitive female brain", bringing those up makes you kind of look like a "feminazzi"

[Locke]

It sounds like someone's delicate sensibilities have been raped, but my understanding is that Kane has a pretty air-tight alibi on this one...

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Locke

It sounds like someone's delicate sensibilities have been raped, but my understanding is that Kane has a pretty air-tight alibi on this one...

Gonna need an explanation here...