View Poll Results: Assuming the NHL is out of the question where would you rather see Kylington play?
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Brandon - WHL
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Stockton - AHL
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09-23-2015, 05:27 PM
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#141
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Flyers have assigned Provorov back to Brandon.
With Pilon quitting hockey for the time being, it looks like a Provorov - Kylington will be the pairing if the Flames put him in Brandon.
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09-23-2015, 05:28 PM
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#142
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Flyers have assigned Provorov back to Brandon.
With Pilon quitting hockey for the time being, it looks like a Provorov - Kylington will be the pairing if the Flames put him in Brandon.
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I've seen Provorov compared to Giordano in scouting reports.
Kylington plays a similar game to Brodie and even plays the right side on his offhand.
It'll be a cool pairing.
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09-23-2015, 09:59 PM
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#143
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I'm feeling like Kylington is going to Stockton. If he does get sent to Brandon that'll be one of the most Dynamic pairings in all of the CHL. Although it may be beneficial to pair them off separately so they both have a defensive I need guy for each of them
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09-24-2015, 02:02 AM
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#144
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I think kylington is ahl ready. He's been playing against men for a while now. Also the ahl will fast track his development if he can keep up with the pack
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09-24-2015, 03:30 AM
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#145
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Brandon will be the best place for him to work on his defensive game.
He's come here as advertised: he could have Karlsson-like potential to put up points, but defensively he needs to go back to the drawing board so that he's not a total liability on his own end.
He has a lot he can learn in Junior hockey.
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09-24-2015, 03:49 AM
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#146
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Originally Posted by FlameZilla
Brandon will be the best place for him to work on his defensive game.
He's come here as advertised: he could have Karlsson-like potential to put up points, but defensively he needs to go back to the drawing board so that he's not a total liability on his own end.
He has a lot he can learn in Junior hockey.
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Disagree, If you send him to junior this year it could be a negative to his development as he used to playing with better players, all of a sudden next year he'll need to go to Stockton because he'll not be used to the speed.
Send him to the A and let Todd Gill work with him both on his defensive game and if there's any truth about attitude on how to be a real pro as well.
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09-24-2015, 06:12 AM
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#147
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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If he goes to Brandon, he'll be the top scoring defenceman in the chl. If he goes to Stockton he'll round out his game more. Either way, the kid is going to be really good
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09-24-2015, 07:11 AM
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#148
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Disagree, If you send him to junior this year it could be a negative to his development as he used to playing with better players, all of a sudden next year he'll need to go to Stockton because he'll not be used to the speed.
Send him to the A and let Todd Gill work with him both on his defensive game and if there's any truth about attitude on how to be a real pro as well.
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If you send him to the AHL he may only play 10-15 minutes a night rather than 20+ it could also be a negative to his development.
And I don't think the WHL is that far below a second tier Swedish league
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09-24-2015, 07:18 AM
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#149
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Scoring Winger
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It's a tough call. Brandon would be good for him because he would likely excel, especially offensively and that would be great for his confidence. However his major weakness is on the defensive side of things and working with coaches in Stockton might be better for his development. He's 18, so either option would probably work, but after the year had I think he needs to be in an environment where he gets lots of ice time and can thrive.
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09-24-2015, 07:18 AM
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#150
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Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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I guess it depends on Buzz and how he responds. He could go to Brandon where it'd be a step down in competition but he could learn the defensive side of the game against easier competition then move up and use those skills against better competition in the future (while getting tons of points) or he could play against a harder competition in Stockton where he'd be challenged more and have to learn those skills against tougher competition. It's up to management to see what they think he'd respond to better. Either way, I'm so f'n excited about this prospect because I've wanted him on the Flames since early last year!
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09-24-2015, 07:20 AM
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#151
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Originally Posted by Crumpy-Gunt
I think kylington is ahl ready. He's been playing against men for a while now. Also the ahl will fast track his development if he can keep up with the pack
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It didn't work out that well for him in Sweden though. It put him in a position from where he was viewed as a top 5 pick to a player that every NHL team passed over at least once and barely got drafted in the 2nd round.
Some of the bad habits he has are the types of things that I think AHL coaches expect players to have dealt with back in junior.
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09-24-2015, 07:22 AM
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#152
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As much as his hockey game needs mentoring his time off the ice needs mentoring too. I don't think he'll get much of that in Brandon with other teenagers.
I think Stockton should be a place for him with a guy like Aaron Johnson, who'll slap him around when needed but also give give pointers. Johnson won't be competing directly with him for call-up/ice time etc either.
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09-24-2015, 07:44 AM
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#153
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My first impressions of Kylington is that the majority of work he needs is between his ears. He comes off as overly confident, bordering on cocky; this can be a positive and negative when it comes to coachability and development.
He has also subtly implied that he isn't very interested in going to Brandon. Pure speculation, but I suspect that his living environment is very important to his mental outlook and the idea of going to a small, rural prairie town does not appeal to him.
Although it would be potentially better for him to go to Brandon, get top minutes and learn some humility. I'm not sure if it is the best environment for him mentally.
He spends his off season training with NHLers, he has played against men for two years, and he just got out of a well-paying gig in Stockholm to improve his development; I say put him in Stockton where he will hopefully be more motivated to compete and receptive to change.
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09-24-2015, 08:31 AM
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#154
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
If you send him to the AHL he may only play 10-15 minutes a night rather than 20+ it could also be a negative to his development.
And I don't think the WHL is that far below a second tier Swedish league
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I am curious why you think the Flames - who's interest it is to develop him - would give him an amount of ice-time that would be detrimental to his development.
I would also be curious to hear from fans who think Brandon would do a good job developing him when their goal is to win.
Kyllington's offense is already at the point where he would be dominant in the CHL. I don't want him 'learning' that he can go end to end at will in Brandon.
I want him learning from pros, and pro coaches, who understand that it is his defensive game, and his approach to the game, that need work.
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09-24-2015, 08:40 AM
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#155
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I actually agree with Alberta Beef on this one.
I would prefer the AHL for development 10/10 - without question, it is vastly superior for Kylington's development.
To me, it is simply a numbers game. With guys like Wotherspoon, Kulak, Culkin (when he returns), Morrisson, Kanzig (more than likely) and Sieloff all still being legitimate prospects and signing Nakladal and Johnson to help mentor that group, there simply isn't enough minutes to spread around.
If there wasn't as much depth, I would prefer Kylington to head on over to the AHL without question.
ECHL might be a good compromise, especially with injuries that are bound to happen (and have happened already to Brodie). However, with Kylington moving around so much in the last few years, playing in Brandon assures him a full year of top-pairing minutes for an entire season.
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09-24-2015, 08:48 AM
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#156
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First Line Centre
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There are pros and cons to both, one worry I have with Brandon is how Eric Roy progressed there - had strong offensive talents, but never learned how to play defence, and ended up not being signed. Would the Flames feel comfortable assigning a guy who also needs work on the defensive side to a team where a recent prospect (albeit a less touted prospect) recently failed to address that part of his game?
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09-24-2015, 08:52 AM
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#157
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Originally Posted by FlameZilla
Brandon will be the best place for him to work on his defensive game.
He's come here as advertised: he could have Karlsson-like potential to put up points, but defensively he needs to go back to the drawing board so that he's not a total liability on his own end.
He has a lot he can learn in Junior hockey.
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Bang on except AHL is where you are better able to control the message sent to him. He can handle pro. wHl is too easy for him. Too much of a chance he picks up bad habits.
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09-24-2015, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Imported_Aussie
There are pros and cons to both, one worry I have with Brandon is how Eric Roy progressed there - had strong offensive talents, but never learned how to play defence, and ended up not being signed. Would the Flames feel comfortable assigning a guy who also needs work on the defensive side to a team where a recent prospect (albeit a less touted prospect) recently failed to address that part of his game?
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You may have a point here, however, from what I saw of Roy in camp, it was the "give a damn" part of his game that needed addressing.
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09-24-2015, 08:59 AM
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#159
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#1 Goaltender
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Location: Calgary
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Meh, Brandon produced Pulock, Provorov and Hamonic recently. I don't think you can hang Roy's results on Brandon.
I was always of the view that Brandon would be best, given his lack of familiarity to the smaller ice and his fairly skinny frame. Perhaps he can handle the big boys and the grind of the AHL, but I don't think the WHL would be bad for him.
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09-24-2015, 09:16 AM
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I think he'll be a stud if he's developed right. I can see him being a TJ Brodie with much more offensive flare as his ceiling. He needs time to round out his game especially his decision making and defensive awareness. I'm all for him playing in Brandon for a year... and if he proves it's too easy, he can always move up to the AHL.
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