[Signing] Oilers sign Klefbom to 7 year extension ($4.167 mil AAV)

[YoungGuns]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Grow up.

YOU brought up Gaudreau with a back-handed insult and comparison to Eberle.

Gaudreau out-performed every member of the Oilers last year in the only metric that matters for Oiler fans - points.

He was also surprisingly sound defensively.

He also helped lead his team to the 2nd round of the playoffs.

The only person on this board that needs to come up with some evidence is you.

So one year ok? Not when it matters to Oiler players though

Show me those defensive numbers

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by YoungGuns

So one year ok?

Does he have a 7 year contract?

[YoungGuns]

Is one year ok?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by YoungGuns

So one year ok? Not when it matters to Oiler players though

Show me those defensive numbers

look yourself

use your own favourite defensive metric - plus/minus

[YoungGuns]

I'm not the one that pimps those numbers.

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by YoungGuns

How is he?

I can assure you, having lived in Edmonton and watched a pile of Oilers games and pretty well watching every Flames game for as long as I can remember, Gaudreau is far more responsible in his own end. It's called the eye test. You should try it sometime.

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by YoungGuns

Yup one guy who is compared to a guy who got into his league like McDavid

And Hall still is on par.

Trust me when I say this, if you polled all 30 GM's and that includes Chiarelli (assuming he removes his homer glasses), all 30 of them would take Tavares over Hall.

[Benched]

lol @ the Gaudreau insult.

Again it's brain damaged. "he had 1 good year, IF he can do it again..." (inherent doubt)
"clefbom is going to be a top 2 D" after 1 year (inherent belief)


Man I get players aren't all apples to apples, but that's some serious blind ass gambling right there.


Agree with those posting before. Deal may look good in 5+ years, may not. The risk on signing a young guy to a huge term deal based solely on 'potential' is just not smart GM'ing, period.

[vilzeh]

YoungGuns, you for real? I knew fans have some homer-glasses on but you're on your own level. (No, that's not a good thing).

[Zevo]

Holy #### some of you are suckers.

[vilzeh]

I know it might seem like he's trolling but I kinda feel like he isn't.

[Kaine]

I can't believe how many of you bit on that.

[vilzeh]

It depends, did we bit? You never know when it's about the Oilers, they just might be that dense. If it would be an other team, I would be sure it's trolling.

[MissTeeks]

@reporterchris: Breakdown of Oscar Klefbom's seven-year extension with the #oilers: $3M, $3.5M, $4M, $4.5M, $4.5M, $4.5M, $5.169M.

@reporterchris: To clarify, Oscar Klefbom has an eight-team no-trade clause for the final two years of his #oilers extension.

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

@reporterchris: To clarify, Oscar Klefbom has an eight-team no-trade clause for the final two years of his #oilers extension.

He's in Edmonton, where could he possibly not want to be traded too? Was he allowed to put KHL teams on that list?

[driveway]

I think this contract isn't as terrible as a lot of people are making it out to be. Yes, it's too long, and it might be a mistake, but the Oilers have managed to create some certainty around their cap situation. Hall, Eberly, Hopkins, Pouliot, Sekera, and now Klefbom are signed through 2018-19 (which will be the 1st year of McDavid's new contract) for a total of 31 million. Going forward, the Oilers must feel they have a 'core' around which they can build, and this contract-structure gives them some flexibility for signing/not signing players like Yakupov (RFA 2018), Draisaitl (RFA 2018), Reinhart (RFA 2018), and Nurse (RFA 2019). It also allows them an idea of what kind of Free Agents they're going to want to look for and add to the roster.

If they'd gone with a 2-year bridge deal for Klefbom, he'd have needed a new contract right in 2018, when all those RFA's are coming up for new contracts. Should he turn out to be the defender that the Oilers hope he will be, then 2018 would have been a murderous offseason for their cap-situation and they'd likely have had to say goodbye to at least a couple of those RFA's, possibly without any, or much, compensation. At least this way, if Klefbom isn't a top-4 guy, the Oilers can look to make a move for him in 2018 to a team who needs to make it up to the cap-floor. His contract is significant, but not onerous, and he'll be an established NHL guy by then.

It's a risk, but I don't think it's at all the idiocy that a great many people here are painting it as.

[YoungGuns]

Originally Posted by Dan02

He's in Edmonton, where could he possibly not want to be traded too? Was he allowed to put KHL teams on that list?

He would have to ask Gio where the best place is

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by YoungGuns

He would have to ask Gio where the best place is

Based on Gio's freshly signed contract, I'm sure the answer would be Calgary. Flames fans live in the present.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by driveway

I think this contract isn't as terrible as a lot of people are making it out to be. Yes, it's too long, and it might be a mistake, but the Oilers have managed to create some certainty around their cap situation. Hall, Eberly, Hopkins, Pouliot, Sekera, and now Klefbom are signed through 2018-19 (which will be the 1st year of McDavid's new contract) for a total of 31 million. Going forward, the Oilers must feel they have a 'core' around which they can build, and this contract-structure gives them some flexibility for signing/not signing players like Yakupov (RFA 2018), Draisaitl (RFA 2018), Reinhart (RFA 2018), and Nurse (RFA 2019). It also allows them an idea of what kind of Free Agents they're going to want to look for and add to the roster.

If they'd gone with a 2-year bridge deal for Klefbom, he'd have needed a new contract right in 2018, when all those RFA's are coming up for new contracts. Should he turn out to be the defender that the Oilers hope he will be, then 2018 would have been a murderous offseason for their cap-situation and they'd likely have had to say goodbye to at least a couple of those RFA's, possibly without any, or much, compensation. At least this way, if Klefbom isn't a top-4 guy, the Oilers can look to make a move for him in 2018 to a team who needs to make it up to the cap-floor. His contract is significant, but not onerous, and he'll be an established NHL guy by then.

It's a risk, but I don't think it's at all the idiocy that a great many people here are painting it as.

Totally agree except the Oilers will have to make a decision on Neon Leon one year earlier as they wasted the first year of his ELC on harming his development last year.

The difficult the oilers are going to have cap wise if having so many high picks forming their core inflates contracts. Hard to find a cheap second contract if they get inflated with draft status. For example, if Keith in Chicago was a top 3 pick, they never would've got the dollar figure they did. You need to have cheap RFA contracts that exceed expectations, which is hard when expectations start very high.

It's for that reason I actually don't mind this contract from Chiarelli's perspective. They'll absolutely need undervalued contracts. So the next step is to roll the dice with your best bet of that happening. It's not going to happen with Nurse, as he wouldn't touch that contract, same with Draisaitl. Sekera signed a UFA deal so you know you overpaid, that's how that market works. Schultz won't sign a seven year and the Oilers would be foolish to offer it. There's few other targets where savings can be had.

Whether or not Klefbom becomes an adequate first or second pairing option, they will play him there as they need the savings. He's a good bet to be a second pairing guy, so they likely overpaid by a small amount IMO

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Totally agree except the Oilers will have to make a decision on Neon Leon one year earlier as they wasted the first year of his ELC on harming his development last year.

The difficult the oilers are going to have cap wise if having so many high picks forming their core inflates contracts. Hard to find a cheap second contract if they get inflated with draft status. For example, if Keith in Chicago was a top 3 pick, they never would've got the dollar figure they did. You need to have cheap RFA contracts that exceed expectations, which is hard when expectations start very high.

It's for that reason I actually don't mind this contract from Chiarelli's perspective. They'll absolutely need undervalued contracts. So the next step is to roll the dice with your best bet of that happening. It's not going to happen with Nurse, as he wouldn't touch that contract, same with Draisaitl. Sekera signed a UFA deal so you know you overpaid, that's how that market works. Schultz won't sign a seven year and the Oilers would be foolish to offer it. There's few other targets where savings can be had.

Whether or not Klefbom becomes an adequate first or second pairing option, they will play him there as they need the savings. He's a good bet to be a second pairing guy, so they likely overpaid by a small amount IMO

First off, you can't compare any team to Chicago anymore as they have two 10+ year back diving contracts in Keith and Hossa which enabled them to keep their entire core together longer than any future team will be able to.

I also don't think the Klefbom contract is a bad bet, I just don't get the need for offering it now. The guy still has a season left on his ELC and odds are great that he will score 30 or less points in the upcoming season.

If that's the case you could have signed him to the exact same contract after he'd had another season to prove his worth.

The Oilers took on unneccesary risk here and they didn't get a discount on the cap hit to compensate for that.