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Old 09-17-2015, 10:01 PM   #1
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Teams may have to change lacross style, changing on the fly while one guy on their team holds the puck in their own zone or behind the net.
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Should the NHL perhaps look at undoing the long-change in OT rule? That made sense for four on four, but it might prove to be unnecessary three on three. Three on three will be exciting for the fans, but it may prove a bit of a downer if every overtime game ends after a minute.
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The gimmicky rule changes make me heart sad.

Can someone make a seriously compelling argument against Win-Loss-Tie, win = 3 points? OT to decide playoff games only. No gimmicks, no shenanigans, and most importantly, the spirit and game of hockey isn't altered.

Have you ever seen a great game battled out between two evenly matched teams, and thought to yourself, wow it's great that the other team got the extra point through the skills comp?

Or even a team that has been greatly outplayed, but hung on for the tie. Then it goes to OT or SO and a winner is decided that probably shouldn't have won the game.
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Ties are gross.
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The gimmicky rule changes make me heart sad.

Can someone make a seriously compelling argument against Win-Loss-Tie, win = 3 points? OT to decide playoff games only. No gimmicks, no shenanigans, and most importantly, the spirit and game of hockey isn't altered.

Have you ever seen a great game battled out between two evenly matched teams, and thought to yourself, wow it's great that the other team got the extra point through the skills comp?

Or even a team that has been greatly outplayed, but hung on for the tie. Then it goes to OT or SO and a winner is decided that probably shouldn't have won the game.
Ties are boring.
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I don't know how anyone can be against 3 on 3
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Or even a team that has been greatly outplayed, but hung on for the tie.

"Hung on for the tie"...is completely contra to your argument.

Ties are way worse than anything they've implemented so far.
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Should the NHL perhaps look at undoing the long-change in OT rule? That made sense for four on four, but it might prove to be unnecessary three on three. Three on three will be exciting for the fans, but it may prove a bit of a downer if every overtime game ends after a minute.
What about a long change period 1 and 3, short for 2 and OT? I recall reading a suggestion like this before but for different reasons.
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"Tarasenko just needs 1 shot"

It's hard to argue with this line of thinking.
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Ties are boring.
Incorrect.

Watching a great game of hockey result in a tie is not boring.

Watching a boring game of hockey end 2-1 is boring hockey.

Watching a great game of hockey end in a tie, then get decided by a gimmicky 3 on 3 match or SO is not boring, but it cheapens the product IMNSHO.

Hockey is a sport of 5 on 5 for 60 mins. In playoffs where a winner is needed, you continue playing 5 on 5 until a winner is decided. It's simple.
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I'm perfectly fine with them going back to ties but I'd rather have a game decided 3 on 3 than in a shootout. Atleast then the winning goal is scored because of a team effort.
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Incorrect.

Watching a great game of hockey result in a tie is not boring.

Watching a boring game of hockey end 2-1 is boring hockey.

Watching a great game of hockey end in a tie, then get decided by a gimmicky 3 on 3 match or SO is not boring, but it cheapens the product IMNSHO.

Hockey is a sport of 5 on 5 for 60 mins. In playoffs where a winner is needed, you continue playing 5 on 5 until a winner is decided. It's simple.
Except teams played for the tie. Much like they play for OT now.

Every game I went to or watched that ended in a tie felt like a waste of time.

But hey, to each their own.
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Except teams played for the tie. Much like they play for OT now.

Every game I went to or watched that ended in a tie felt like a waste of time.

But hey, to each their own.
Well my original post specifically asked for a compelling argument. That's not exactly compelling.

I also noted that a win should be 3 pts, a tie 1, a loss 0. That will compel teams to play 100% effort until the final buzzer for the extra 2 points.

You should NEVER in ANY sport get a point for losing.
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Well my original post specifically asked for a compelling argument. That's not exactly compelling.

I also noted that a win should be 3 pts, a tie 1, a loss 0. That will compel teams to play 100% effort until the final buzzer for the extra 2 points.

You should NEVER in ANY sport get a point for losing.
I agree with that. But I don't agree with ties. 2 points for a win in whatever way (regulation, OT, shootout, whatever) no points for a loss. Essentially the same as Basketball and Baseball.
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Within a month, i don't think you'll see any vocal opposition to 3 on 3 outside of the initial 5 minutes following a loss.
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The gimmicky rule changes make me heart sad.

Can someone make a seriously compelling argument against Win-Loss-Tie, win = 3 points? OT to decide playoff games only. No gimmicks, no shenanigans, ....
Yep, it's a game. The whole point of playing is to pick a winner. Cheer when your team wins. Feel sad for an hour when your team loses. Just have a bit of fun for 2.5 hours, then get back to real life until the next game.
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I really enjoyed that video.

I think it's going to be amazing. Flames were excellent on special teams last year so hopefully we can pull off a 70% win record.
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3 on 3 is a way more "hockey like" way to decide a winner than the shootout
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Old 09-18-2015, 11:44 AM   #20
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3 on 3 is a way more "hockey like" way to decide a winner than the shootout
I agree, but I don't like the idea of something "hockey like" deciding a hockey game.

Hockey games should decided by hockey. And if it can't be decided in 60, the teams share the points. If a winner emerges, they get 3 points.
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