[Signing] Ferland and Flames agree to 2 year 825K AAV 1 way deal

[Benched]

siging happened.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

I'd be fine with being scratched too. Does that mean I should be on the team? How does "being ok with being scratched" redeem a player that is a worse option than many others?

If there's better options, let's let them play. He's probably the worst option on the team

Bollig is the perfect 13th forward. YOu don't want Granlund or Poirier sitting in the press box for 30 or 40 games a year.

Plus with Lucic in the Pacific now and it looks like long term too, you will need guys like Bollig and Engelland around. Ferland is tough but he's going to get murdered if he has to deal with Lucic. Rather have Bollig or Engelland take Lucic off for 5 then any other player on the roster.

All the truculent haters are looking at it all wrong. Bollig and Engelland are there to be used and abused (ie, sitting in the pressbox, sitting in the penalty box, fighting). You don't want good players or young players doing that.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Great, another Iginla thread. You just can't help yourself, can you?

Yes, mentioning Iginla's name while talking about physical scoring forwards is exactly the same as all the threads that turn into pissing contests about Feaster/the Iginla trade/Iginla being a bad leader/whatever other garbage they always turn into.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by 868904

Bollig is the perfect 13th forward

Except the problem is that he's our 16th forward, and that's with Granlund down in Stockton where he no longer belongs.

Keeping your 16th forward and losing your actual 13th/14th forwards would be terrible team construction.

[RyZ]

Originally Posted by 868904

Bollig is the perfect 13th forward. YOu don't want Granlund or Poirier sitting in the press box for 30 or 40 games a year.

Plus with Lucic in the Pacific now and it looks like long term too, you will need guys like Bollig and Engelland around. Ferland is tough but he's going to get murdered if he has to deal with Lucic. Rather have Bollig or Engelland take Lucic off for 5 then any other player on the roster.

All the truculent haters are looking at it all wrong. Bollig and Engelland are there to be used and abused (ie, sitting in the pressbox, sitting in the penalty box, fighting). You don't want good players or young players doing that.

I dont agree with the bolded at all. They are both about the same weight (225-230) and Lucic is listed as being 2" taller (6'3 vs 6'1). I think those 2 going head to head is going to be a whole lot closer than you think it is.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by RyZ

I dont agree with the bolded at all. They are both about the same weight (225-230) and Lucic is listed as being 2" taller (6'3 vs 6'1). I think those 2 going head to head is going to be a whole lot closer than you think it is.

Ferland has lost a ton of weight. He's around 210 now.

[saillias]

Lucic is also not quite as tough as he used to be. He was once the top dog but since getting one-punched and then that Weiss thing he's lost some of that intimidation.

Engelland and him used to fight while he was in Pittsburgh. Not too worried about Lucic. Ferland could probably manage, if he had to.

[Strange Brew]

Very good signing for the Flames IMO. There is virtually no downside from a salary cap perspective. Only risk is that if does get sent down and not claimed (which seems unlikely unless there is sustained mediocre play) then the Flames are on the hook for a 1 way contract. Whatever - that's their money not mine.

Little surprised the Ferland camp agreed to a 2 year deal. BT must have bargained hard on this one.

[SanFranFlamesFan]

Fun fact that I was surprised by: Last year Ferland had more points in less games in the playoffs than Sam Bennett.

Ferland: 9 GP, 3G, 2A
Bennett: 11 GP, 3G, 1 A

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by codynw

Yes, mentioning Iginla's name while talking about physical scoring forwards is exactly the same as all the threads that turn into pissing contests about Feaster/the Iginla trade/Iginla being a bad leader/whatever other garbage they always turn into.

Chill dude I was being sarcastic.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by saillias

Lucic is also not quite as tough as he used to be. He was once the top dog but since getting one-punched and then that Weiss thing he's lost some of that intimidation.

Engelland and him used to fight while he was in Pittsburgh. Not too worried about Lucic. Ferland could probably manage, if he had to.

Ferland's got a good chin, I'm confident in his ability to at least hold his own. He took a few cheapshot punches from Bieska before the latter ducked behind the safety of the referees.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Lol @Kassian. Mooseheaded brick brained oaf.

[AcGold]

Lucic would decimate 210 pound Ferland, it wouldn't be much of a fight. Ferland's training for speed, skill and physicality whereas Lucic gives zero ####s and has a drastic strength and experience advantage. I'd bet a lot of money on that one, he wouldn't hold his own. He'd hold on for dear life if the fight happened, huge mismatch.

Only one that can take him is Engelland.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by codynw

Benn, Iginla, Backes.

Wilson in Washington might get there eventually too, but that's all I can think of right now. Definitely not many players like that anymore.

Wilson is a good example. Just dangerous enough to make the other team keep their head up but also showed he could score.

[foshizzle11]

Originally Posted by SanFranFlamesFan

Fun fact that I was surprised by: Last year Ferland had more points in less games in the playoffs than Sam Bennett.

Ferland: 9 GP, 3G, 2A
Bennett: 11 GP, 3G, 1 A

I hope that is a sign of things to come but weren't Bennett's goals a bit more important? One for Ferland got the ball rolling in Game 6 and then an empty netter, I don't even remember the other one.

Anyway, he will produce in the NHL when he earns his time on the ice and I agree with others on here, I would like to see him playing with Stajan and Jones again. That line is our 3rd line at the moment but has the chance to move up or down as needed. They played well together. At some point I wouldn't mind seeing Ferland with Bennett at centre in some situations.

So exciting!! I love this kid.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Savvy27

I'd like to see him with Stajan and Jones.

That looks like it could be the 4th line on an actual contender.

[Enoch Root]

First of all, very happy that he is signed, so that it doesn't derail his training camp.

Second, great deal for the Flames, as they don't have to re-address this next summer.

As for this...

Originally Posted by AcGold

Lucic would decimate 210 pound Ferland, it wouldn't be much of a fight. Ferland's training for speed, skill and physicality whereas Lucic gives zero ####s and has a drastic strength and experience advantage. I'd bet a lot of money on that one, he wouldn't hold his own. He'd hold on for dear life if the fight happened, huge mismatch.

Only one that can take him is Engelland.

I don't agree. Ferland is as tough as nails. He most likely loses the first altercation due to experience. But I have little doubt that he would own Lucic - or anyone else - in relatively short order.

It isn't the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog.

[getbak]

Scott Cruickshank ‏@CruickshankCH

#Flames LW Micheal Ferland minutes before signing his two-year deal Thursday morning. @leahhennelphoto

Now, it all makes sense.

"Hey, Mike, I'm not going to stop talking until you sign your damn contract."

"Okay fine, Craig, I'll sign. Please, just stop."

[foshizzle11]

^^^ If that is the case, great job Conroy!! Keep on talking.

[keratosis]

I always pictured Conroy as a smaller player, don't know why.