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				It's actually spelled Micheal. 
			
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Not my meme (shamelessly stolen), but it still works considering it's coming from caveman Bieksa.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-10-2015, 11:48 AM
			
			
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			09-10-2015, 11:50 AM
			
			
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If you shopped that, definitely shop a big grey beard on there too!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-10-2015, 11:52 AM
			
			
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				If you shopped that, definitely shop a big grey beard on there too! 
			
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Haha, I really should have.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-10-2015, 11:52 AM
			
			
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				It's actually spelled Micheal. 
			
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I am pretty sure it is an accurate representation of Kevin's spelling ability.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-10-2015, 11:56 AM
			
			
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			Really? It took this long to come to that? 
 
Thats pretty much the perfect contract for both sides.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-10-2015, 11:58 AM
			
			
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			09-10-2015, 11:59 AM
			
			
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				Really? It took this long to come to that? 
 
Thats pretty much the perfect contract for both sides. 
			
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I think Ferland probably wanted one year. This way, if he has a good season, he has to wait an extra year to get a raise.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-10-2015, 12:00 PM
			
			
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				I think Ferland probably wanted one year. This way, if he has a good season, he has to wait an extra year to get a raise. 
			
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I'm sure he did, who wouldnt, but if he had a bad year or got injured he'd get nothing.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-10-2015, 12:01 PM
			
			
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			09-10-2015, 12:02 PM
			
			
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				I think Ferland probably wanted one year. This way, if he has a good season, he has to wait an extra year to get a raise. 
			
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I still have a hard time believing Ferly was that confident/cocky he'd have such a good year that he wanted one year less on a deal. He's only played 30ish total NHL games. He could very easily have a bumpy year. 
 
What I think what happened is Flames offered 1 year 900k, and Ferly wanted multi for the security of longer term. So they settle on 800k.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-10-2015, 12:04 PM
			
			
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			This is awesome! I knew the Flames wanted 2 years, it just makes more sense for the team. I can see great chemistry with Bennett and Ferland moving forward.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-10-2015, 12:06 PM
			
			
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				I'm sure he did, who wouldnt, but if he had a bad year or got injured he'd get nothing. 
			
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Pretty sure if Ferland signed a one year deal and got injured the next day, the Flames wouldn't walk away from him when the contract was up.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-10-2015, 12:22 PM
			
			
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				I still have a hard time believing Ferly was that confident/cocky he'd have such a good year that he wanted one year less on a deal. He's only played 30ish total NHL games. He could very easily have a bumpy year.  
 
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I really think you have that backwards.  I can see the player being more confident than the management group in his ability to replicate his playoff series vs Vancouver over an 82 game season.  It seems like management would want a larger sample size.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-10-2015, 12:22 PM
			
			
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			09-10-2015, 12:23 PM
			
			
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				Pretty sure if Ferland signed a one year deal and got injured the next day, the Flames wouldn't walk away from him when the contract was up.    
			
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Thats probably true, but at the same time you'd think a one-year deal for a fairly unproven rookie is a huge risk, Ferland should be the one wanting a bit more security.
 
Especially after Management declared that if a player helps the team win, they'll get paid, they'll make the money work.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-10-2015, 12:25 PM
			
			
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				I still have a hard time believing Ferly was that confident/cocky he'd have such a good year that he wanted one year less on a deal. He's only played 30ish total NHL games. He could very easily have a bumpy year.  
 
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It most likely has nothing to do with Ferland being cocky. It's up to his agent to get the best deal possible for him. It's probably like Gios situation where he  told his agent to get it done and the agent did what he could. It's just the business side of it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-10-2015, 12:29 PM
			
			
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			1 year deal, 2 year deal...doesn't matter to me. The AAV is fair and I really want to see Ferland play a full year with the Flames to see just what kind of player we can expect long term. Before the playoffs, I was kind of "meh" about him, but he's the kind of player that all really good teams need to supplement the skilled forwards. Power, size, decent speed, decent hands, finishing ability, tenacity, big bodychecker. The ideal 3rd line forward that can play on the 2nd line in a pinch. 
 
I'll be glad to see Ferland do this before main camp begins so that he can focus on starting the season strong.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-10-2015, 12:38 PM
			
			
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			@DarrenDreger: Ferland agrees to 2 yr extension with Calgary Flames. $825,000 aav. $750,000 year 1 and $900,000 year 2.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-10-2015, 12:41 PM
			
			
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				I really think you have that backwards.  I can see the player being more confident than the management group in his ability to replicate his playoff series vs Vancouver over an 82 game season.  It seems like management would want a larger sample size. 
			
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We'll never know so all we can do is speculate. 
 
But putting myself in Ferly's shoes, as a young prospect with a 30 game NHL resume, and no real stats to write home about (except for the 9 games in the playoffs) I would rather a 2 year deal than a 1 year deal for security. 
 
Putting myself in BT's shoes, I would offer Ferly a 1 year "show me" deal. After he shows you what he can do over 82+ games, then you pay him accordingly. 
 
Thatts why I think Ferly wanted 2 and the Flames wanted 1. Many a player were awesome in their small sample size. Remember Sven? GMs need to be careful not to get swept up in hype of a prospect for the greater good of the club.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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