Flames at Pride reaction

[MrMastodonFarm]

May be something, may be nothing but starting to notice a pattern of the people posting hateful Facebook comments.. most tend not to have an actual picture of themselves, just a random photo or horrible inspirational quote pic instead. Also tend to have their profiles totally closed off.

This was good though.

Commentoes EVERYTHING have to be a rainbow? So sick of having this shoved down my throat.

Reply: Too easy. I'll leave this alone.

[Benched]

Wow just read the comments holy moly this city is red neck...or bible thumping. Not sure. Pretty ugly.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Benched

Wow just read the comments holy moly this city is red neck...or bible thumping. Not sure. Pretty ugly.

The comment section of any site, on any issue is usually the scum of the Earth. Been to youtube lately?

Let's not ignore the thousands of people that showed up to Pride this afternoon and focus on the handle of hateful Facebook commenters.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Probably one of few instances where corporate co-opting of a social movement actually accomplishes something good.

Flames see participation as beneficial to the bottom line.

For example: A lot of banks/financial institutions are on board.

Somewhere along the line Pride evolved from a protest to a march to a family-friendly parade with corporate sponsorship.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Benched

Wow just read the comments holy moly this city is red neck...or bible thumping. Not sure. Pretty ugly.

Ya it's pretty sad. Hopefully they are the minority.

[chid]

It makes me sad to see people in our city be on the wrong side of history.. I wonder what textbooks will say when they talk about lgbtq issues in the future.

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Somewhere along the line Pride evolved from a protest to a march to a family-friendly parade with corporate sponsorship.

Probably around the time the organizing committee started actively discouraging the go-go boys and the tossing of naked trading cards into the crowd. I'd say, about 4 years ago now. Anything too sexual in nature will get you yanked from the parade mid-journey. A good thing in my opinion - I never thought it needed to have inflatable dongs and all.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

Probably around the time the organizing committee started actively discouraging the go-go boys and the tossing of naked trading cards into the crowd. I'd say, about 4 years ago now. Anything too sexual in nature will get you yanked from the parade mid-journey. A good thing in my opinion - I never thought it needed to have inflatable dongs and all.

If the goal is acceptance/tolerance then the active participation of heterosexual allies in these endeavours means the end goal is in sight. I'll go out on a limb and say there were more heterosexual onlookers (if not participants) in this parade. It's a fairly new phenomenon (maybe the tipping point being about five years ago).

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Wedge

This is my biggest issue with this topic. Alberta Beef includes "but" and now he's cited as bad, as a homophobe. The witch-hunt on here for anyone not 100% support of all things gay is lame. The PC movement has gotten old.

Did these things happen in your imagination?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Probably one of few instances where corporate co-opting of a social movement actually accomplishes something good.

Flames see participation as beneficial to the bottom line.

For example: A lot of banks/financial institutions are on board.

Somewhere along the line Pride evolved from a protest to a march to a family-friendly parade with corporate sponsorship.

Which is really awesome. The right to non-violently protest is a fundamental aspect of freedom. The fact they pulled it off and turned it into a victory like that is an amazing example of what people can do when their convictions are strong and righteous.

[Patek23]

You know I never understood how a community so demanding of tolerance now is able to dish out so much intolerance too anybody not accepting of their ways, and unfortunately it seems like most aren't even in the LGBT community rather are self-appointed knights of the cause. I fully support the pride parade and anybody who attends. I support the Flames going to the parade and showing their support. I accept those who are gay, and believe they should be able to live their lives out in anyway that they want too free of discrimination. Does this mean that I think it is a natural act? or something that I want to promote or go out of my way to personally support? most definitely not. And I'm aware that I'm opening myself to getting roasted here by the majority. But I don't see why accepting of someones personal beliefs and activities has to go hand in hand with my agreeing of it. Equality for all is allowing people to live their lives and believe what they want too, wether its something you agree with or not. And I think thats something that goes for both sides. Anybody who goes out of their way to put someone down or chastise another for how they are or what they think is often someone who is being exactly what they are trying to stand up against. This is a public forum free for anyone to post in and express their opinions.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

This is a public forum free for anyone to post in and express their opinions.

Don't think that's true.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

...But I don't see why accepting of someones personal beliefs and activities has to go hand in hand with my agreeing of it...

I don't think anyone here ever said you must agree with others' opinions.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

You know I never understood how a community so demanding of tolerance now is able to dish out so much intolerance too anybody not accepting of their ways, and unfortunately it seems like most aren't even in the LGBT community rather are self-appointed knights of the cause. I fully support the pride parade and anybody who attends. I support the Flames going to the parade and showing their support. I accept those who are gay, and believe they should be able to live their lives out in anyway that they want too free of discrimination. Does this mean that I think it is a natural act? or something that I want to promote or go out of my way to personally support? most definitely not. And I'm aware that I'm opening myself to getting roasted here by the majority. But I don't see why accepting of someones personal beliefs and activities has to go hand in hand with my agreeing of it. Equality for all is allowing people to live their lives and believe what they want too, wether its something you agree with or not. And I think thats something that goes for both sides. Anybody who goes out of their way to put someone down or chastise another for how they are or what they think is often someone who is being exactly what they are trying to stand up against. This is a public forum free for anyone to post in and express their opinions.

[morgin]

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

You know I never understood how a community so demanding of tolerance now is able to dish out so much intolerance too anybody not accepting of their ways, and unfortunately it seems like most aren't even in the LGBT community rather are self-appointed knights of the cause. I fully support the pride parade and anybody who attends. I support the Flames going to the parade and showing their support. I accept those who are gay, and believe they should be able to live their lives out in anyway that they want too free of discrimination. Does this mean that I think it is a natural act? or something that I want to promote or go out of my way to personally support? most definitely not. And I'm aware that I'm opening myself to getting roasted here by the majority.

There is no point in any of this where this parade is promoting everyone to be gay. I'm assuming by the above your statement "I don't think it is a natural act and not something I want to promote or go out out of my way to personally support" is in respect of the actual status of being gay. Setting aside the loaded statement about "natural act", the parade is about promoting tolerance and equality. People are not marching to convince other people to be gay. They are promoting an atmosphere for every person in Calgary to feel safe, respected, and equal, regardless of their sexuality, and to hopefully encourage a society where everyone can live an honest life where people don't feel persecuted or discriminated against. Since you support that, it sounds like you want to support the parade.

Originally Posted by Flaming Homer

But I don't see why accepting of someones personal beliefs and activities has to go hand in hand with my agreeing of it. Equality for all is allowing people to live their lives and believe what they want too, wether its something you agree with or not. And I think thats something that goes for both sides. Anybody who goes out of their way to put someone down or chastise another for how they are or what they think is often someone who is being exactly what they are trying to stand up against. This is a public forum free for anyone to post in and express their opinions.

Feeling like you need to specifically inject your disapproval of what you consider "unnatural" into the conversation is what is being criticized. If you are upset that people who hold the opinion that being gay is wrong or somehow less "right" than being straight are being criticized and told they may hold views that are somewhat homophobic, well, yeah. As was pointed out earlier, those beliefs comprise attitudes which the word represents.

[Wedge]

Originally Posted by the2bears

I don't think anyone here ever said you must agree with others' opinions.

One would have to be pretty stupid to not see the finger pointing going on in this thread.

[Looch City]

Times are changing and there are absolutely correct and incorrect opinions.

But feel free to swing back 50 years and start a thread on why you don't agree with women's suffrage or inter-racial marriage. In my opinion, those movements are no different than this one. I find it hilarious how people on the wrong side of history are playing the victim card.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Wedge

One would have to be pretty stupid to not see the finger pointing going on in this thread.

One would have to be even more stupid to confuse acceptance with agreement.

[PepsiFree]

If it's not ok to publicly criticise someone who disagrees with the Flames participation in the parade (or the parade in general), why is it ok for that person to publicly criticise the Flames for participating in the parade (or the parade in general)?

You've got the people criticising the gay rights movement, gay rights advocates criticising those people for not being accepting, and then some randos criticising the gay rights movement for not being quietly tolerant of the first round of criticism.

Equality isn't letting someone express himself about how wrong your sexuality is while you stay quiet.

[SebC]

Jon Cornish has two moms. Brian Burke had a gay son (RIP Brendan). Not that one needs a close connection to show support/compassion, but if you know that context, it seems pretty insensitive to tell them they should've stayed home. (Because of their jobs? What's the logic here?) And if you didn't know that, now you do.