Flames at Pride reaction

[ikaris]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

If the Flames participated in a march for cancer or MS awareness, and people tell them to stick to hockey, what type of reactions should those people (deservedly) get from the general public?

So are you saying that being gay is like having cancer or MS?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I think in the early days, there was a bit more of a protest aspect and some outrageous things made the news, even if they were the exception. It still gives people the wrong notion. They should just really go and see what is about IMO. It's really worth going just to see the artistic expression of many of the people involved.

And not try and take the cause away from the LGBT community as the event was created to bring their cause into the mainstream, but on a more basic level, Pride is for everyone who was ever afraid to be themselves, be judged, or want to exercise their freedom of expression. In fact, I think as time goes by, society will look back on the rampant homophobia like most people do about pre-civil rights treatment of black people in America; that is with a mindset of; "What the hell were people thinking!?". It won't make Pride celebrations obsolete, but rather more inclusive.

I came in here to state that I was fine with the team marching in the parade and anyone else for that matter (and I did earlier in the thread) Just took a bit of an issue with the whole homophobe thing, people seem to jump to that pretty quickly. There are reasons other than being anti-gay to not personally like the parade. I know gay people who don't like it for christ sake.

I admit it has been 4 or 5 years since I have been there so if things have been cleaned up (for lack of a better word) then good, people on the fence might take it more seriously.

Anyway, this is my last post in here I don't need 5 pages of people railroading against me. If you are going to the parade I sincerely hope you have a great time...don't freeze your balls off in those short shorts

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Pride is for everyone who was ever afraid to be themselves, be judged, or want to exercise their freedom of expression. In fact, I think as time goes by, society will look back on the rampant homophobia like most people do about pre-civil rights treatment of black people in America; that is with a mindset of; "What the hell were people thinking!?". It won't make Pride celebrations obsolete, but rather more inclusive.

bingo.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

Yeah, but apparently if you don't attend or march in the parade, you don't support the movement, and are in all likelihood a homophobe.

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

I see charity work and marching in a parade as two different things. Yes they both effect the community but in different ways.

So for every rally that goes on in Calgary the flames have to show support for, to give back to the community?

This is the root of your argument.

You've seen the stats.

How else do you show being gay is o.k. if you're the Calgary Flames, with the limited number of avenues they have available.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

This is the root of your argument.

You've seen the stats.

How else do you show being gay is o.k. if you're the Calgary Flames, with the limited number of avenues they have available.

You have to pick every single cause or your being a hypocrite I guess. Can't march in Gay Pride if you don't do something for Black history month or Italian Heritage day.

[RyZ]

Originally Posted by ikaris

So are you saying that being gay is like having cancer or MS?

He didnt say anything of the sort. How do you possibly come to that conclusion?

[combustiblefuel]

This thread has become ridiculous. Thank god hockey is only a few weeks away.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

This is the root of your argument.

You've seen the stats.

How else do you show being gay is o.k. if you're the Calgary Flames, with the limited number of avenues they have available.

I see what you're saying, just the logic doesn't hold up. By default the Flames can't show anything else. Hypothetically, the Flames have no avenues to show that being gay is not o.k*. They most likely be fined and asked to apologize for any such statement.

Anyways, I am glad that the players use their status as role models, to promote causes they think are just. That is all there is to it in this discussion.

*I am only criticizing the logic here not the statement by over exaggerating it. Also, it is in direct contrast to what I believe.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

As for pride parades, I am not a big fan. The reason being that we draw attention to an issue that should* be a non issue. I think anyone can love and be with whoever they wish, and they shouldn't be treated differently for it. A parade, in my opinion, shows a community that wishes to distinguish itself from the rest of society. Finally, let me ask you just one question. What kind of a reaction would the community have if I decided to have a straight parade? I think it would try to label me as anti-gay, simply because I wish to celebrate my love for the opposite sex.

I'd say good luck and hope you get more attendance then this guy.
http://www.newnownext.com/a-seattle-...ed-up/07/2015/

Anthony Rebello threw a Heterosexual Pride parade in Seattle’s gayborhood of Capitol Hill on Saturday, but the turnout was less than he had expected: Exactly no one showed.

“We all have the right to celebrate the way of life we have chosen for ourselves,” he posted on Facebook in advance of the event.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

Yeah, but apparently if you don't attend or march in the parade, you don't support the movement, and are in all likelihood a homophobe.

That's not even your original argument. You're saying you have an issue with people that are against the Flames marching in the parade being automatically labelled as homophobes. What other possible reason could there be to be against Flames doing another community service than if you are against the movement itself? I guess the radical view that one poster brought up about Flames sticking solely to hockey and nothing else is valid. But if that's the case, then you are technically against them doing any type of charity work.

We're not talking about attending or marching in the parade, we're talking about whether you are against the Flames getting involved in it.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

What kind of a reaction would the community have if I decided to have a straight parade? I think it would try to label me as anti-gay, simply because I wish to celebrate my love for the opposite sex.

You'd probably get the same kind of reaction as those cool dudes who hold white power events. It usually goes like this:

1) A couple dozen morons show up to protest the 'imgrints and turbans or the Jews running Hollywood or whatever else is holding them down.

2) A hundred other people show up to shout at them.

3) Everyone else rolls their eyes, and maybe laughs at the people who would do something so stupid as hold a white power (or in this case a "Straight Pride") event.

But have at 'er if you want. Nobody is stopping you. If really want to celebrate the fact that you like the ladies, start the movement.

I like the ladies too, but I can't possibly imagine a reason I'd need to "celebrate" it though. The old "I want a straight pride parade to prove that the homos will call me a homophobe if I have a straight pride parade" doesn't cut it.

[Jables16]

Originally Posted by GGG

Stick to hockey is coded language though.

Because I assume the same people would have no problem with the flames coming out for the stampede parade.

Or any other community involvement like the flames foundation. It's only this community involvement that they should stick to hockey

Great post. It's not like we see the lactose intolerant community get up in arms on Miracle Treat Day. "Flames players serving Blizzards to the community?! Ugh! Stick to hockey, guys."

[Grimbl420]

I'm all for equal rights and support the LGBT community but I do not like the pride parade. I think there is an overtly sexual aspect of it, with people dressing in sexualized clothes and bondage gear or no clothes at all. Then you got your blow up penises, dry humping and other simulated sex acts. These sexual acts are against the law and would get these people arrested any other day of the year. Pride is supposed to be about being able to freely love who you choose, NOT ABOUT THE ACT OF SEX!

Until this is removed from the parade in whole I do not, and will not support it. When they remove the indecency from it then count me in.

[corporatejay]

The parade isn't as sexualized as it used to be. Much more corporate support, including my firm, which I'm proud to say has a "float" this year. I will be marching and weather permitting my wife and kids as well.

Glad the flames are involved.

Does anyone know why Cornish isn't marching this year?

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

The parade isn't as sexualized as it used to be. Much more corporate support, including my firm, which I'm proud to say has a "float" this year. I will be marching and weather permitting my wife and kids as well.

Glad the flames are involved.

Does anyone know why Cornish isn't marching this year?

Jon Cornish? He's busy getting ready for the game Monday?

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by Grimbl420

I'm all for equal rights and support the LGBT community but I do not like the pride parade. I think there is an overtly sexual aspect of it, with people dressing in sexualized clothes and bondage gear or no clothes at all. Then you got your blow up penises, dry humping and other simulated sex acts. These sexual acts are against the law and would get these people arrested any other day of the year. Pride is supposed to be about being able to freely love who you choose, NOT ABOUT THE ACT OF SEX!

Until this is removed from the parade in whole I do not, and will not support it. When they remove the indecency from it then count me in.

Have you ever been to Calgary Pride? I've never ever seen a naked person walking. Never. I've marched in it every single year since 2006.

[MissTeeks]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Does anyone know why Cornish isn't marching this year?

Shaw says he's part of their parade coverage:

@ShawTVCalgary: Watch the @PrideCalgary #Parade LIVE on Shaw ch10 this Sunday at 12:30pm! @AlannaNolan @OnAirKate @global_leslie http://t.co/rmCefWKSEJ

@ShawTVCalgary: @PrideCalgary @AlannaNolan @OnAirKate @global_leslie and of course @April_Storm & @jonnycornish will be with us too! #yycpride

[ben voyonsdonc]

You know the thread has gone off the rails when someone trots out the "straight pride parade" trope.

There is a straight pride parade every day. It is held on every single street in the world.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by CMPunk

Jon Cornish? He's busy getting ready for the game Monday?

He's injured still I believe.


Thanks to the above, he's on TV.

[Grimbl420]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Have you ever been to Calgary Pride? I've never ever seen a naked person walking. Never. I've marched in it every single year since 2006.

Yes, I've been to pride, both here and in Vancouver.