Flames at Pride reaction

[MRCboicgy]

Why is there an MS walk?
Why is there a Dog Jog for the Humane society?

Couldn't we just all send our cheques to the organizations we choose, instead of there being a public display of support?

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by the2bears

This sounds like you're complaining about intolerance of intolerance. Sounds pretty stupid.

More complaining about the, if you are not with us, you are against us ideology, and the witch hunt that inevitably ensues.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by AcGold

I support gay people, not such a fan of the groupthink and vitriol that goes along with the movement. The get in line or shut the f up mentality is the way of tyrants.

Flames can do whatever they want, but so can the posters in here. Saying the Flames should stick to hockey is hardly homophobic, not that I agree with the sentiment. But still, throwing around the word homophobe at every given opportunity is a little witch hunty for my tastes.

If the Flames participated in a march for cancer or MS awareness, and people tell them to stick to hockey, what type of reactions should those people (deservedly) get from the general public?

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by GGG

So what is the "x" reason that the flames shouldn't participate that isn't homophobic?

If they chose not to march would that be considered homophobic?

That might be enough of a reason to march, to avoid issues of controversy.

[Jbo]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

If they chose not to march would that be considered homophobic?

That might be enough of a reason to march, to avoid issues of controversy.

For someone that only wants to talk about hockey, you sure are avoiding the other threads that talk about hockey.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

More complaining about the, if you are not with us, you are against us ideology, and the witch hunt that inevitably ensues.

Have fun being a victim.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

If the Flames participated in a march for cancer or MS awareness, and people tell them to stick to hockey, what type of reactions should those people (deservedly) get from the general public?

Do you let everything the flames do or don't do effect your social views? I personally support the flames as a hockey franchise and love the great charity work they do in the community. I don't go reading into them having an issue with something based off of non-participation.

[N-E-B]

I think the Flames participating is great. I'm not gay but I'm a big believer in LGBT equality and showing support for that community. Everyone should feel welcome to be a part of the Flames family.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

Do you let everything the flames do or don't do effect your social views? I personally support the flames as a hockey franchise and love the great charity work they do in the community. I don't go reading into them having an issue with something based off of non-participation.

Huh? My comment was aimed at the people who have issues with the Flames participating in the parade. Not sure I understand what point you're trying to make.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by Jbo

For someone that only wants to talk about hockey, you sure are avoiding the other threads that talk about hockey.

I'm just defending my previous comments.

The reason I haven't posted before this thread, has mostly to do with the fact that CP has for the most part knowledgeable forum members whose points I agree with, instead of rehashing something that someone has already said (and in all likelihood articulated better than I could), I choose not to bother posting.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Huh? My comment was aimed at the people who have issues with the Flames participating in the parade. Not sure I understand what point you're trying to make.

But why would anyone have any issue with their participation?
As has been said, when it's a non issue, that's when things have gotten to where they should be.
And in my mind, it's entirely a non issue.

[KelVarnsen]

This is going well.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

So I'm not allowed to have an opinion on the subject?

Of course you are. Just don't pretend that you don't care about them marching because clearly you do. Were you posting about them when they marched in the Stampede parade? You are tightrope walking along the "I'm not a homophobe but..." territory.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by the2bears

Have fun being a victim.

I can't, goes against my Libertarian ideals.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Of course you are. Just don't pretend that you don't care about them marching because clearly you do. Were you posting about them when they marched in the Stampede parade? You are tightrope walking along the "I'm not a homophobe but..." territory.

Honestly, if they marched or not, doesn't bother me, it's not going to effect my day to day. I do think that the flames should just stick to hockey, but I also understand the complexities of the modern day society and the optics involved.

I was just trying to make a point, sorry if I offended anyone.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

Why is it that if you have a different view, you are automatically labelled a "homophobe"? I just find it strange that a movement preaching tolerance, has zero tolerance for people with a descenting view.



For the record I don't care if the flames are marching in the pride parade, nor am I homophobe.

Because, in this case the 'different view' is homophobic.

Also, you don't get to decide if you're a homophobe: your words and actions speak for themselves and then other people get to make that determination.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Of course you are. Just don't pretend that you don't care about them marching because clearly you do. Were you posting about them when they marched in the Stampede parade? You are tightrope walking along the "I'm not a homophobe but..." territory.

Don't worry they probably have a gay friend so it's totally fine.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

Honestly, if they marched or not, doesn't bother me, it's not going to effect my day to day. I do think that the flames should just stick to hockey, but I also understand the complexities of the modern day society and the optics involved.

I was just trying to make a point, sorry if I offended anyone.

So you don't think Joe should make the trip out to High River to see the girl with leukemia on her birthday?
He should be taking shots against the garage door instead, and sticking to hockey?
One can't say they appreciate everything the Flames do in the community, like you said, and then say they should stick to hockey.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

So you don't think Joe should make the trip out to High River to see the girl with leukemia on her birthday?
He should be taking shots against the garage door instead, and sticking to hockey?
One can't say they appreciate everything the Flames do in the community, like you said, and then say they should stick to hockey.

One type of person can.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

Honestly, if they marched or not, doesn't bother me, it's not going to effect my day to day. I do think that the flames should just stick to hockey, but I also understand the complexities of the modern day society and the optics involved.

I was just trying to make a point, sorry if I offended anyone.

I don't think you pick up the contradiction in the first two sentences. If you don't care, why do you think they should stick to hockey? What about the other non hockey things that they do (ie other parades, commercials, etc)? Should they stop doing those too? Or is it only this parade that bothers you? If it is, maybe you are homophobic (possibly without realizing it). There are lots of people on this board who felt that way at one point and have evolved with time and now are fully supportive.