09-01-2015, 09:45 PM
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Ignoring everything else about Kane's character, or the cost to acquire him, maybe just as important if not more is how he will completely throw the salary structure out of whack. Why should Gaudreau, Monahan, Bennett, Brodie, etc., all sign for reasonable deals when a team mate is making 10+ million a season?
Too expensive to acquire
Too many character issues to be concerned about with a young team (regardless of the current rumors, that cabby incident alone is enough for me)
Destroys salary structure
He is not even a consideration in my mind.
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09-01-2015, 09:46 PM
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#62
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First Line Centre
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judging from conroy's recent comments and from the comments of rich winter gio's agent,
kane is overpaid and if he were to renegotiate his contract today, it would come in at a lower value. might take a few years before this contract makes sense to trade for.
also crap thread BTW
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09-02-2015, 12:21 AM
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#63
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few players can match his playoffs performance. I would imagine St. Louis would try to get him to get some playoff performance
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09-02-2015, 12:27 AM
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#64
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Patrick Kane may very well be traded as a result of this scandal. I'm confident the Flames won't be involved. There's simply no room here for his eyepopping cap hit and I doubt BT is about to trade the assets required or deal with the ripple effect it would cause in terms retaining other players down the road.
Nothing wrong with the topic, maybe it should've went in the rape thread or the rumors thread lol.
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09-02-2015, 12:38 AM
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#65
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Not a casual user
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If this goes to trail I have my doubts that any team would want his services. It would be a PR nightmare for any team that trades for him.
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09-02-2015, 01:45 AM
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Okay, okay. If we were to do this hypothetically, I'd put a one time offer of Hudler + Wideman + prospect/picks
Cap hit is pretty much a wash. All players help the respective teams currently but aren't young.
Because strictly from an on ice standpoint
Gaudreau - Monahan - Kane
Would be magical to watch. Sorcery on ice every night. You could just label the games that.
But coming back to reality...hell no. I've never been more content with us taking a laissez faire approach. Aside from a our net situation, I believe that we've already got the seeds in place for a future juggernaut team. We need not do anything.
Johnny is basically Kane 2.0 anyhow. And sans baggage.
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09-02-2015, 02:45 AM
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#67
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: England
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If they do flip Kane, they gotta be gutted at letting Saad walk
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09-02-2015, 03:27 AM
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Kane for stamkos.
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09-02-2015, 07:38 AM
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#69
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Draft Pick
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Helsinki
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The Gaudreau-Kane-trade ought to happen now to make sense!
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09-02-2015, 07:52 AM
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Scoring Winger
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No thanks. I wouldn't trade a 5th rounder for that rapist. Him and his 3 cup rings can stay the hell away from Canada and our women
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09-02-2015, 08:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackWallStreet
No thanks. I wouldn't trade a 5th rounder for that rapist. Him and his 3 cup rings can stay the hell away from Canada and our women
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Thanks for your input on this subject your honor.
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09-02-2015, 08:37 AM
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#72
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Kane to the Oilers
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09-02-2015, 09:16 AM
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#73
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Kane for Crouse, Campbell, 1st
Panthers dump the Campbell contract back on the Hawks bit give up a solid young piece and first round pick. That is a massive loss of offense this summer for the Hawks though if they move Kane, Sharp and Saad.
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09-02-2015, 09:27 AM
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I think his contract is going to look awful very quickly. 10% of the salary cap should be the absolute maximum a player makes.
Just can't ice a team otherwise. With two contracts like that I don't know what is going to happen.
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09-02-2015, 10:26 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Originally Posted by Dion
If this goes to trail I have my doubts that any team would want his services. It would be a PR nightmare for any team that trades for him.
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Not during the trial, but if found innocent or acquitted I can't see teams not being interested.
There are rumors out there that Chicago is fed up with Kane's shenanigans and this was the breaking point. They might want him traded because they think he eventually he'll start to hurt their brand. There's probably a lot of stuff we don't even hear about with Kane, stuff the team keeps under wraps. Not illegal stuff, just things the team would hope Kane would grow out of.
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09-02-2015, 10:56 AM
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#76
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago Native relocated to the stinking desert of Utah
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Doubtless, the rumored trade offers to the 'Hawks are low-ball, "you retain a bunch of salary, we get the guy", attempts by desperate GMs. The fact is, the guy hasn't been charged with anything yet, and sadly, the assumption here and elsewhere is guilt.
Also, I wouldn't be too smug about Flame guys necessarily automatically being better "character" guys...Theo's exploits were not good either, and he wore the C for your team.
Who knows how young guys who have been groomed to be "stars", who have endless temptations from "puck bunnies" and hangers on, will behave in varied situations?
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09-02-2015, 11:10 AM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
Also, I wouldn't be too smug about Flame guys necessarily automatically being better "character" guys...Theo's exploits were not good either, and he wore the C for your team.
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I think you took the comments too personally. Everyone was referring to the current Flames line-up that has been held up as a huge character team with no bad attitudes.
Posters were simply saying they don't want to add a player like Kane with obvious off ice issues (not including this current one because no charges have been laid) and potentially throw off the character team we've built so far.
I don't believe anyone was making the generic "Flames are and always have been a team with no character issues but Chicago isn't classy like that" like you seemed to take it.
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09-02-2015, 11:30 AM
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#78
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago Native relocated to the stinking desert of Utah
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Jayswin, I apologize if my meaning was muddled...my point is that there is no way to TELL one's character from the start (unless it's the gang tats that NBA/NFL guys come into camp sporting!)...and even teams that appear to have no problems still may. (read the scathing comments that Raanta made as parting shots at the 'Hawks! He couldn't have hidden those feelings from all his coaches/teammates... http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...140247584.html)
Truly, I understand that fans like to feel that their teams are special...and many individuals are...but also, many in all sports fail to mature because of the way they have been handled as youths.
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09-02-2015, 12:40 PM
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#79
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Does he have a NTC/NMC?
Every team in the league could use a player like Kane (allegation aside). But that contract looks horrible. Just entering the first of 8 years at a 10.5 mil cap hit. Wow.
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09-02-2015, 12:46 PM
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#80
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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Honestly, I could see him going to Buffalo. Chance at redemption for him on his hometown team. Buffalo has the assets to trade for him (Kane and first for Kane?).
Not many other teams have the space or are positioned well to take this piece.
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