09-01-2015, 12:47 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
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Reward is great because you potentially get a very good player . The risk is that he potentially will not play or at the very least have a dark cloud that will follow him for the duration of the investigation/trial.
I think, regardless of the caliber of player, you stay away. Especially for a team that is so community orientated. The potential PR fallout will be damning to the club he is on. Worse if you are a tam that knowingly went out to get a player with this risk attached.
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09-01-2015, 12:50 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Let's stick with the character guys.. That plan seems to be working really well.
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09-01-2015, 12:54 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Kane
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Jones
Raymond
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09-01-2015, 12:57 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle
While I agree with the sentiment of your post, the statement about the NHL cutting ties with him is simply not close to realistic. Unless he is found guilty of a "major" crime (and the one he's being currently investigated for is of course major) then there will always be a home for Kane somewhere in the NHL. Or at least there will be while he's still one of the best in the game. Just a reality of life, you get away with more, if you can deliver something somebody somewhere values.
I would just hope that the Flames' Values don't align themselves with what Kane seems to represent at this point, and I certainly hope the Flames don't feel they are desperate enough at this point in time to need to sacrifice on their values for on ice results.
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Heatly killed a man and still played in the NHL. MacT also played after killing someone.
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09-01-2015, 12:57 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: 555 Saddledome Rise SE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
Kane
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Raymond
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I honestly pass. I don't want a new 8x$10.5M contract in the Flames cap structure. Staple a 1st or two to him then sure.
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09-01-2015, 12:58 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FBI
Let's stick with the character guys.. That plan seems to be working really well.
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So the guy with "character issues" who's won 3 cups doesn't belong on the team that hasn't won a cup in over 20 years. Not that I want him on the Flames but the character thing does get blown out of proportion at times. I like the way the team is coming together but who knows how Kane would do on the team. He may be a great hockey guy who's awesome and a leader but is just an idiot when it comes to the outside world not related to hockey and he makes bad decisions.
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09-01-2015, 01:04 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
Kane
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Raymond
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Worst trade proposal ever, not a single mention of hanowski.
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09-01-2015, 01:06 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
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IIRC Fletcher was able to get Gilmour to the Flames in a lopsided trade thanks in part to statutory rape allegations he was facing in St. Louis. Ultimately grand jury chose not to indict him after he was traded.
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09-01-2015, 01:07 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
Kane
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Raymond
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But it would have to happen now for it to make sense for the hawks.
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09-01-2015, 01:18 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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Nobody is touching Kane until they find out whether he's guilty or not.
And the Flames can't fit his $10.5M cap hit anyways (now or in the future) so this is all irrelevant.
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09-01-2015, 01:41 PM
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#31
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Self-Suspension
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Hell no, absolutely not. If a player gets cut for personal off ice issues and misbehavior they rarely turn it around. We're better off without him.
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09-01-2015, 01:45 PM
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Scoring Winger
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In terms of the Flames, this discussion isn't really worth having. No matter how much of an asset he is on the ice, he doesn't fit the character/professional requirements for the team. And would simply cost too much.
However, it's been reported that 5 teams have fielded offers or at least shown interest in trading for Kane. So discussing where he could go and for what is an interesting topic to have.
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09-01-2015, 01:47 PM
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#33
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Lets be intellectually honest here....he's post apex.
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09-01-2015, 01:52 PM
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#34
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Houston, TX
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So. How about them BLUEJAYS?
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09-01-2015, 01:55 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Bad thread no trade for Kane
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09-01-2015, 02:05 PM
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#36
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Legal issues aside this would totally go against what the Blackhawks have worked towards as Sharp, Buff, Ladd, Saad, Campbell etc. have all left cause the team is building (and doing quite well) around Toews, Kane, Keith, Hossa and as a wildcard Seabrook.
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09-01-2015, 02:14 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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The Flames already have Patrick Kane. He's just younger and nicer.
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09-01-2015, 02:22 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dying4acup
So. How about them BLUEJAYS?
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09-01-2015, 02:24 PM
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#39
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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I'd rather allocate the cap space to Hudler at this point. Kane in almost certainly would be Hudler out, as well as whatever assets we'd give up in the trade.
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09-01-2015, 02:30 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
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I'd take him but it would depend on the price. His cap hit is massive so I wouldn't want to pay a lot. If you could steal the guy then ya he would be an amazing addition to our top line as long as he doesn't pull a Tiger Woods or something. Can't see him being traded for peanuts though so I'd likely stay away.
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