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Old 06-01-2015, 07:57 PM   #401
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Why would people in QC feel obligated to go watch Jr hockey in hopes of getting NHL hockey? It's not like they paid for the new Arena.

It was the good folks of Western Canada that paid for that rink through equalization payments, while the Quebec government runs a socialist nanny state. Heck, maybe they are planning on having a government owned hockey club.
I can just hear the banjos playing in the back ground as you typed that out.
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Is it just me or does this new Quebec arena seem really bland and bare bones for a 2015 built arena?

I guess that's probably how it had to be with no NHL tenant but every picture and rendering I've seen of it just seems like they took a 5000 seat, bare bones junior hockey arena and extrapolated it to 18000 seats on a graphic design program.
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Is it just me or does this new Quebec arena seem really bland and bare bones for a 2015 built arena?

I guess that's probably how it had to be with no NHL tenant but every picture and rendering I've seen of it just seems like they took a 5000 seat, bare bones junior hockey arena and extrapolated it to 18000 seats on a graphic design program.
The actual arena bowl looks pretty generic but if you go to the site and see the renders of suites and boxes they look pretty impressive. Makes the Saddledome look prehistoric in comparison.
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As much as I wouldn't watch Junior hockey, QC sure could have used a good showing at the memorial cup which they did not do.

Lets not forget the team left for a reason.
Yes, but attendance wasn't one of the reasons.
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:28 AM   #406
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I can just hear the banjos playing in the back ground as you typed that out.
Ah yes, a redneck reference to the people of Alberta.
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New arena will be completed for $30 M under budget and on time:

http://www.journaldequebec.com/2015/...-lamphitheatre
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New arena will be completed for $30 M under budget and on time:

http://www.journaldequebec.com/2015/...-lamphitheatre
Under budget and on schedule? In Quebec? Really?

This is either an anomaly or the seats will all be folding chairs and dressing rooms are out in portables for the first season.
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Old 06-18-2015, 02:27 AM   #409
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Wrong thread

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Under budget and on schedule? In Quebec? Really?

This is either an anomaly or the seats will all be folding chairs and dressing rooms are out in portables for the first season.
Or just good old fashioned book cookin'
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Ah yes, a redneck reference to the people of Alberta.
I'm surprised you figured that out all by yourself
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Under budget and on schedule? In Quebec? Really?

This is either an anomaly or the seats will all be folding chairs and dressing rooms are out in portables for the first season.
Or the walls are all plaster instead of concrete...

Incidentally, when the Expos made their debut, 3000 seats at Jarry Park really were folding chairs. So that would at least follow Quebec tradition.
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Cloud of uncertainty over Hurricanes as Quebec beckons

http://www.si.com/nhl/2015/08/26/car...le-quebec-move

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/s...e32357781.html

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The Canes need to go full circle and return to Hartford.
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Raleigh was always a market that frustrated me, and imo had some weird building tactics. They were never a complete low budget "we don't spend money on anyone" team, but they kind of took breaks from spending.

They would start building and if things looked really good they would spend that extra to try and put them over the top, but if things looked bad they'd bail and cut bait to save money.

It obviously worked once, which is great, but what it prevented was ever building a loyal fanbase, they actually perpetuated the fairweather fan label more than the actual fans did, lol.

Their fans knew the game after a few years. "We're either a playoff contender or the team cuts all finances and we're a bottom feeder....this year they've gone with bottom feeder, so I'll tune out until further notice".

This strategy also prevented them from building a solid, cohesive team that grew from year to year, just like the fanbase. It's especially frustrating because their fans showed they could be literally the loudest in the league when they were given a respectable product.

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Even though the NHL has been steadfastly against franchise relocation, and it seems short-sighted and self-defeating to allow a team to move in the middle of an expansion process that could generate $1 billion for the owners, Karmanos included, there’s a worst-case scenario for Hurricanes fans.

That would involve the league giving an expansion team only to Las Vegas, allowing Quebec to purchase and relocate an Eastern Conference team and going with 31 teams until Seattle or another western city gets its act together, thereby avoiding the conference imbalance adding an expansion team in Quebec would create, with 14 teams in the Western Conference and 16 in the East currently.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/s...#storylink=cpy
Hmm that's interesting, but hard to imagine the NHL turning down the expansion fees Quebec would bring in.
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http://www.journaldequebec.com/2015/...-lamphitheatre

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Hmm that's interesting, but hard to imagine the NHL turning down the expansion fees Quebec would bring in.
You'd think both the LV and QUE groups would compete to buy and relocate the Hurricanes, it would be way cheaper than the expansion fee. In addition, the team would come more stocked with talent than if it had to build from scratch (expansion draft).
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I would much rather see the Coyotes or Panthers move before the Canes. Agreed that when the product is good, that seems like arguably the craziest arena to play in. It'll always be a niche sport in the Carolinas obviously, but they seem to have carved out a nice little niche. Now all they need is a team for the market to get excited for again.


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You'd think both the LV and QUE groups would compete to buy and relocate the Hurricanes, it would be way cheaper than the expansion fee. In addition, the team would come more stocked with talent than if it had to build from scratch (expansion draft).
That would require that the NHL Board of Governors approve a relocation. They're not about to kiss half a billion dollars goodbye by doing that.

When, and only when, they have collected their pound of flesh for the two expansion franchises, they'll look at allowing existing franchises to relocate to any markets that are still available.

This is the end game – the real reason why Gary Bettman poured tens of millions of the owners' dollars down the bottomless pit of Phoenix, among other things. A cool billion in expansion fees covers those losses many times over. You may be sure that the owners gave Bettman his marching orders to do exactly that.
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