Pretentious musicians hate popular pop artist. News at 11.
FWIW, Ryan Adams has praised her as a song writer, so Noel can choke on it.
1989 is a great pop record. If pop isn't your thing, then, yeah I get you won't like it but trying to align her with 5 seconds of summer or one direction is bull####.
Pretentious musicians hate popular pop artist. News at 11.
FWIW, Ryan Adams has praised her as a song writer, so Noel can choke on it.
1989 is a great pop record. If pop isn't your thing, then, yeah I get you won't like it but trying to align her with 5 seconds of summer or one direction is bull####.
I dunno, I think its just being sold that way. Kanye West stealing the mic from her was the best thing that ever happened to Swift. She gained everyone's sympathy/attention and now her brand of crap music can be peddled willfully as "great pop". Seems to be the latest trick in the music biz. Just tell everyone that the latest fluff is actually "great pop" and even dimwits like Ryan Adams will buy into it.
Lately it actually seems like the pretentious hipster thing to do is praise stuff like Swift and pretend its more than carefully packaged garbage. The music is completely devoid of soul. If Taylor Swift is great anything, its pretty much a great showcase of how to make a product or brand marketable to the masses.
Noel should continue to bash stuff like this. I'd be worried if he wasn't.
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I mean no disrespect to Jay or Macker. I recently read those comments about Swift by Noel and Dan and they were fresh in my mind. Noel is always good for a laugh.
It is interesting how powerful Swift has become as a person and brand. I think she gets treated with kid gloves because of her importance in the music industry. Did she make a great "pop" record"? Sure, if by "pop" we mean popular. If "pop" is defined as something else (light, catchy, danceable music), her songs sound really average and derivative to me.
Is she a great song writer? That is hard to judge, because she works extensively with other producers and writers (at least 11 on 1989). I know she plays some guitar, but I don't know what level of musician she is. A great female song writer that I like is Courtney Barnett (about the same age).
Would she sell so many records if she didn't have the expert production, promotion and super-model looks?
There was a special interview show with Swift on TV last night. In 30 minutes, they talked about music for 30 seconds.
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I mean no disrespect to Jay or Macker. I recently read those comments about Swift by Noel and Dan and they were fresh in my mind. Noel is always good for a laugh.
It is interesting how powerful Swift has become as a person and brand. I think she gets treated with kid gloves because of her importance in the music industry. Did she make a great "pop" record"? Sure, if by "pop" we mean popular. If "pop" is defined as something else (light, catchy, danceable music), her songs sound really average and derivative to me.
Is she a great song writer? That is hard to judge, because she works extensively with other producers and writers (at least 11 on 1989). I know she plays some guitar, but I don't know what level of musician she is. A great female song writer that I like is Courtney Barnett (about the same age).
Would she sell so many records if she didn't have the expert production, promotion and super-model looks?
There was a special interview show with Swift on TV last night. In 30 minutes, they talked about music for 30 seconds.
Probably not, but production is a huge part of any record, the same could be said of many artist, particularly rappers.
And look, she writes with Max Martin, who has 3 the third most #1 singles of any songwriter (behind lennon and mccartney) so obviously she's paired with a hit maker. She's young and she's trying, there was a time when Justin Timberlake was just a guy in a boy band, but as he started to mature creatively you could see NSync starting to more thoughtful and creative pop music. Now as a solo artist he's considered to be pretty brilliant.
I think the thing I respect most about Taylor Swift is that she actually seems to want to be a better artist but for now, I think she's pretty great at what she does.
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I dunno, I think its just being sold that way. Kanye West stealing the mic from her was the best thing that ever happened to Swift. She gained everyone's sympathy/attention and now her brand of crap music can be peddled willfully as "great pop". Seems to be the latest trick in the music biz. Just tell everyone that the latest fluff is actually "great pop" and even dimwits like Ryan Adams will buy into it.
Lately it actually seems like the pretentious hipster thing to do is praise stuff like Swift and pretend its more than carefully packaged garbage. The music is completely devoid of soul. If Taylor Swift is great anything, its pretty much a great showcase of how to make a product or brand marketable to the masses.
Noel should continue to bash stuff like this. I'd be worried if he wasn't.
Smarter dimwit than Gallagher though. One is capitalizing and or showing creativity and one is trying to take shots on the net from the crowd. What's the Story Morning Glory is 20 years old and Oasis hasn't had much to say musically since. I was tired of those idiot/dimwits in the late 90s but tolerated them because of their early brilliance. Too much time has passed for any future music or opinions out of them to be relevant but I am surprised this came out of Noel and not Liam Beatle sized hypocrites Talk about Pop music... Carry on Music of 2015!
A couple of debut albums : The Girlpool album "Before the World Was Big" is decent as is the debut from SOAK "Before We Forgot How To Dream" for completely different reasons. New album September 25th from Youth Lagoon. Promising second half of 2015 with all of the late August/early September releases!
If you're worried about losing your love of new music, your fears are justified. That's according to new research that finds listeners reach "maturity" around age 33. In other words, you're done with discovering new music when you reach your mid-thirties.
The study compared multiple sets of data, including the age and gender of Spotify users, their parental status, and the overall popularity of artists. The study found that teenagers listen almost exclusively to the most popular artists, but their tastes evolve steeply into their mid-twenties, and then slowly until they level off in their mid-thirties.
I think the headline is misleading - it is not new music but popular music that mature people steer away from?
Taylor Swift is like the popcorn at a movie theatre, it makes money because it's in the right place at the right time. Swifts music is god awful monotone nonsense, at the same time you can't fault her too much.
We all need to make money somehow, there's just no point in discussing the artistic merit of that kind of music. It's a product designed to make money by a group of people not an artistic expression. It will never be better than a product because it's designed as such.
Macklemore and Ryan Lewis return with Downtown, filmed in Spokane:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...video-20150827
The clip and punchy, funky track bear an initial resemblance to Macklemore and Lewis' breakout hit "Thrift Shop," opening with the Seattle rapper spitting bars about buying a moped before linking up with Caz, Kool and Melle Mel (who have previously never appeared on the same song together). The group traipse and cruise through the street of Spokane, Washington, and sharp eyes will catch a quick cameo from Mariners great Ken Griffey Jr.
BEST: Macklemore Takes His Haters Downtown My girlfriend is the biggest Macklemore hater imaginable and she is completely smitten with “Downtown.” No one knows what to make of the thing, which is the best possible outcome for the second-most hated rapper in the game. The West Side Story-inspired video featuring absolute legends on the order of Grandmaster Melle Mel himself, the completely owning-it Broadway-bound chorus, the moped mini-opera plotline… Macklemore did his best to bring as much of the bonanza as possible to the VMAs and the palpable joy of his (and what army’s) performance could melt even our hating hearts. It is absolutely your move Iggy Azalea.
There is no filler material on Gates Of Gold. After four decades, the songwriting shimmers with concisely drawn reflections on life, as well as slight echoes of 1992's masterpiece Kiko and its many sonic experiments. But like anyone with 40 years of experience doing one thing and doing it brilliantly — experience drawing on that same seemingly eternal creative well — Gates Of Gold stands on its own.
American Masters - should be in Rock Hall of Fame.
Now I get revenge on my kids for playing TS 1989 over and over. RA 1989 out today on iTunes. Bad Blood is such a Wonderwall
He did a really, really good job on this. The album is excellent. He really stripped it down and it's pretty amazing how raw and vulnerable some of these songs are when you take away the massive production values. How You Get The Girl is heartbreaking.
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Beatle sized hypocrites
