[News] CalgaryNEXT Announcement. New arena details emerge.

[Zarley]

Originally Posted by Cappy

It isn't.

Why would I want to work next to an arena. Very serious question? Why would my office move from the Core to West village because of an arena/fieldhouse?

Retail use (and hotel) will be attracted by the complex. Once a retail node develops the area instantly becomes more attractive for office. Close proximity to the Sunalta station is also huge.

[MrMastodonFarm]

If the ctrains can handle the morning and afternoon commute they can handle a concert getting out.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by CedarMeter

Missed the presser. When do they plan on unveiling the rest of the designs (interior) ?

When they're finished designing them. Apparently that is still in process.

[Jordan!]

This isn't going to happen.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

This isn't going to happen.

lol. You.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Almost all playoff games, Western Final games are usually colder than a witch's *** and there is nowhere to get warm except the overcrowded stinky bathrooms.

Agree. I'm on the east side facing the sun and on a hot day it can be painful too. While I'd love a retractable roof, if the choice it permanent roof or outside I'll take roof.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

This isn't going to happen.

Of course not. How often do you get the first thing?

Do you get the world's perfect hamburger that they show you in the McDonald's commercial?

How about the gaggle of attractive women after every beer you crack?

[curves2000]

I had written a little longer and indepth piece but it didn't post for whatever reason so here is my take in a shorter format.

I myself am ok with a lot of what was proposed although I would have expected more considering we have been talking about this since 2007.

In any event I think we all need some caution with regards to all this "world class city" talk. This type of language is always thrown when it comes to special events like Olympics, World Cups, Pan Am games and new sporting facilities. Edmonton, Winnipeg and Regina were all told that their new facilities would turn them into "world class cities"

We as Flames/Stamps fans and Calgarians can't sit here and laugh when cities like Edmonton, Regina and Winnipeg can't attract free agents in sports yet sit here and believe that this project will turn us into a global city. Cities like NY, LA, London, Paris, Prague, Moscow, Rome, Athens, Sydney etc are in different categories than us and our western Canadian cousins.

I am a proud born and raised Calgarian and Canadian. Love the city and the country but we have to be careful how we are sold the bull sh**

Some city councilors promised us massive increased tourism and world class awards for our "Peace Bridge" in order to justify us spending 10 times the cost. What we got instead was a good looking and unique bridge that runners, cyclists, walkers use. The odd wedding picture and graduation takes place as well. This isn't the Acropolis of Greece, the Eiffel Tower of Paris or the Pyramids of Egypt that some people believe.

I just want to caution before people get too excited here. Too many people I know in places like Edmonton, Regina and Winnipeg got all worked up about being a world class city. New sports facilities for what are pretty much Canadian sports (hockey and CFL football) don't transform Flames, Oilers, Jets, Stamps and Rider fans into something of historical nature globally.

This gonna be a long and potentially politically charge process. We already had an unexpected change in provincial government, perhaps a federal one and plenty of business in YYC who are looking at chopping some expenses like client entertainment. Where we are in a years time can be totally different.

Just my $.02 Thanks!

[mikephoen]

When will Thanks be turned back on? It's gonna take me forever to go back through this thread and thank every Jay Random post.

[Frequitude]

Originally Posted by Parallex

How are those not from the taxpayers?

I see 690M taxpayer dollars, the ticket tax and CRL are just suggested financing schemes for 490M of it (and the 200M for the fieldhouse is unfunded at present).

If you want to see it that way, then you are ignoring $490M plus interest in revenue coming back into taxpayer pockets from the users of the new facility...ticket purchasers who will enjoy the new facilities and developers who will make money being near by the facilities.

The $200M is absolutely a straight up handout though, albeit slightly dressed up as a diversion of planned expenditure by the city.

Long story short, this is a $200M handout by the taxpayer and a $490M loan by the taxpayer which will be repaid with (I assume) interest.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

This isn't going to happen.

I'll take that bet.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I had written a little longer and indepth piece but it didn't post for whatever reason so here is my take in a shorter format.

I myself am ok with a lot of what was proposed although I would have expected more considering we have been talking about this since 2007.

In any event I think we all need some caution with regards to all this "world class city" talk. This type of language is always thrown when it comes to special events like Olympics, World Cups, Pan Am games and new sporting facilities. Edmonton, Winnipeg and Regina were all told that their new facilities would turn them into "world class cities"

We as Flames/Stamps fans and Calgarians can't sit here and laugh when cities like Edmonton, Regina and Winnipeg can't attract free agents in sports yet sit here and believe that this project will turn us into a global city. Cities like NY, LA, London, Paris, Prague, Moscow, Rome, Athens, Sydney etc are in different categories than us and our western Canadian cousins.

I am a proud born and raised Calgarian and Canadian. Love the city and the country but we have to be careful how we are sold the bull sh**

Some city councilors promised us massive increased tourism and world class awards for our "Peace Bridge" in order to justify us spending 10 times the cost. What we got instead was a good looking and unique bridge that runners, cyclists, walkers use. The odd wedding picture and graduation takes place as well. This isn't the Acropolis of Greece, the Eiffel Tower of Paris or the Pyramids of Egypt that some people believe.

I just want to caution before people get too excited here. Too many people I know in places like Edmonton, Regina and Winnipeg got all worked up about being a world class city. New sports facilities for what are pretty much Canadian sports (hockey and CFL football) don't transform Flames, Oilers, Jets, Stamps and Rider fans into something of historical nature globally.

This gonna be a long and potentially politically charge process. We already had an unexpected change in provincial government, perhaps a federal one and plenty of business in YYC who are looking at chopping some expenses like client entertainment. Where we are in a years time can be totally different.

Just my $.02 Thanks!

Just wanted to say, interesting list of world class or global cities. Prague, Athens and Sydney, but no Berlin, Tokyo, Istanbul or Hong Kong?

Just busting balls.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

When will Thanks be turned back on? It's gonna take me forever to go back through this thread and thank every Jay Random post.

I've saved myself the trouble and just paid to have glitter delivered to his home.

What do you mean thats a bad thing? Who doesnt love glitter?

[Jordan!]

It's a grand idea, but there's no way the Flames get all of this. It's a bit of a pipe dream. New arena? Sure, make it happen. But the whole Shebang? Like others have said, if this was proposed 2 years ago with money flying all over the city maybe but in a down economy? Hmmm.

Looks amazing, but it's overly ambitious

[hockey.modern]

Having mixed feelings about the designs, I hope they can create something much better when everything is final.

That said, does anyone know who the architects are going to be more for the whole facility?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

It's a grand idea, but there's no way the Flames get all of this. It's a bit of a pipe dream. New arena? Sure, make it happen. But the whole Shebang? Like others have said, if this was proposed 2 years ago with money flying all over the city maybe but in a down economy? Hmmm.

Looks amazing, but it's overly ambitious

Um. Except for the fact that the Flames are bigger than the average sports company. They're not one rich dude with a toy, they're a group of rich dudes with assets and a plan.

The plan is what works best. Having a plan.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Locke

I've saved myself the trouble and just paid to have glitter delivered to his home.

What do you mean thats a bad thing? Who doesnt love glitter?

Uh, thanks for the glitter, Locke, but it's sitting in the front yard and I have nowhere to put it. And now a bunch of 10-year-old girls have shown up wanting to borrow a cup of glitter, and it's making the neighbours talk. They're beginning to think I'm a perv.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Having mixed feelings about the designs, I hope they can create something much better when everything is final.

That said, does anyone know who the architects are going to be more for the whole facility?

Nothing has been designed yet. Like Ken King said, that is the fun part.

[442scotty]

If it isn't a Nenshi or City Council idea it will be a tough sell on them... They love their own pet projects even if it throws millions out the window on stupid ideas... Now if we can somehow turn this around so they think its their idea......

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Uh, thanks for the glitter, Locke, but it's sitting in the front yard and I have nowhere to put it. And now a bunch of 10-year-old girls have shown up wanting to borrow a cup of glitter, and it's making the neighbours talk. They're beginning to think I'm a perv.

Jared? Is that you?

Just get some construction paper and glue and that'll get solved in no time.

Cook up some macaroni.