[News] CalgaryNEXT Announcement. New arena details emerge.

[FFFLife]

Originally Posted by azzarish

I'm a bit confused about the MLS thing. Did Ken King say the fieldhouse couldn't support the MLS, or did he say that they would look at that in 10-15 years time?

From what I gathered, he meant that even if we had an MLS capable stadium now, the city and its people wouldnt have enough interest to support a team, but in 10-15 years this may not be the case, and we will be ready for it by then, or sooner.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by dino7c

are you implying the Flames would consider leaving the city shortly after the arena was built?

Not at all, but the expectation is the arena would service for 20 or 40 yrs. what is stopping them from leaving then? Before we start to say this couldn't happen, take a look back at the mid 90's

Im not trying to start a fight over the flames leaving, just raising the point that the city owning the build is not a benefit at all.

I would much rather have the team own the building and land. 100% revenue to the team and they have an interest in keeping the team here.

[Oil Stain]

I heard that the hockey rink is going to have one more seat than the arena in Edmonton.


I like the location along the river. That will look really sharp when its completed.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Cappy

The building is worthless without revenue generation. Worse, its a depreciating asset that will be worth nothing when the Flames move again.

... Depreciating asset vs. What?

The land that's currently toxic?

[Crumpy-Gunt]

Some people are such homers. This idea frickin sucks. Give the flames a new stadium and deal with the rest of the issues on their own. This complex won't turn Calgary into New York or make us any more world class. What a joke, Ken king has that feasted complex and thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Spouting these stupid reasons for why we need to do this the way he is proposing.

Day ruined

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Benched

not saying I don't want a new arena and stadium. not saying the project doesn't look interesting.

but there are some definite holes in this presentation. I can hardly blame KK for the sales job and hyperbole, but there is a load of spin/bs on the top of this, like you knew there would be...just irks me.


-was expecting the arena to seat more
-was expecting to hear more on the infrastructure/road/transportation side of things (KK says LRT will be the primary method of transport. well, not sure how that's going to work, we currently have LRT + massive car parking and both are still freaking nuts after a game)
-clean up and who's paying the bill etc.
-infrastructure/roads who's paying the bill etc.



So while I'm as excited as you guys for moving forward with something we do need, and I support a 'large sports area' rather than a 'distributed buildings setup'....But I think the 'vitirol' is more like 'legitimate concerns' as there should be from all of us.

Any new stadiums will always seat less, not more. More leg room, more direct to seat sales/service. Providing greater amenities and services to less patrons to maximize revenue.

[azzarish]

Thanks for the replies on the MLS question.

[Weitz]

I don't like the ticket tax comments: it's probably going to be coming from the city but they are calling it a ticket tax so average joe doesn't think its 450 million from the city. just my opinion.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Cappy

Not at all, but the expectation is the arena would service for 20 or 40 yrs. what is stopping them from leaving then? Before we start to say this couldn't happen, take a look back at the mid 90's

Im not trying to start a fight over the flames leaving, just raising the point that the city owning the build is not a benefit at all.

I would much rather have the team own the building and land. 100% revenue to the team and they have an interest in keeping the team here.

I would like to ride naked on a unicorn its not gonna happen...as usual people want a stadium but don't want to pay for it

check the cost to the individual taxpayer, less than a trip up to Edmonton to see Bieber

[Scornfire]

Politicians make me itch,

Q: "where will the unfunded 200m that was planned for the fieldhouse come from?"
A: "Rabble Rabble Rabble"

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Crumpy-Gunt

Some people are such homers. This idea frickin sucks. Give the flames a new stadium and deal with the rest of the issues on their own. This complex won't turn Calgary into New York or make us any more world class. What a joke, Ken king has that feasted complex and thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Spouting these stupid reasons for why we need to do this the way he is proposing.

Day ruined

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Crumpy-Gunt

Day ruined

Don't lie to us. You love complaining; it's your whole shtick on CP. KK has just given you a free gift of stuff to complain about.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Crumpy-Gunt

Some people are such homers. This idea frickin sucks. Give the flames a new stadium and deal with the rest of the issues on their own. This complex won't turn Calgary into New York or make us any more world class. What a joke, Ken king has that feasted complex and thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Spouting these stupid reasons for why we need to do this the way he is proposing.

Day ruined

And some people are such downers and have issues writing in English. I hate getting feasted complex. Don't let it ruin your day.

[hockey.modern]

The arena concept is leaving confused:

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I would like to ride naked on a unicorn its not gonna happen...as usual people want a stadium but don't want to pay for it

check the cost to the individual taxpayer, less than a trip up to Edmonton to see Bieber

True, there are no 100% privately owned stadiums. I guess we keep dreaming.


ALSO, the Flames want a new stadium and don't want to pay for it.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Any new stadiums will always seat less, not more. More leg room, more direct to seat sales/service. Providing greater amenities and services to less patrons to maximize revenue.

Edmonton is a poster boy for that. 10 different kinds of premium seating. Reduced upper bowl that doesn't have any of the amenities Ie. cupholders, wider seats, etc.

If you aren't sitting in seats provided by a large corporation, your experience will be only marginally better in a new arena IMO.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Weitz

I don't like the ticket tax comments: it's probably going to be coming from the city but they are calling it a ticket tax so average joe doesn't think its 450 million from the city. just my opinion.

These are the types of details we need.
Ticket tax is good, but who fronts the money?
etc.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Not fixing Bow Trail is the big miss out of all this. It's some years off before shovel hit dirt but it would be so much nicer having the backside of that field house backing onto some green space into the Bow River.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Crumpy-Gunt

Some people are such homers. This idea frickin sucks. Give the flames a new stadium and deal with the rest of the issues on their own. This complex won't turn Calgary into New York or make us any more world class. What a joke, Ken king has that feasted complex and thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Spouting these stupid reasons for why we need to do this the way he is proposing.

Day ruined

If this ruined your day, your day must have been so frickin' awesome to begin with.

You should go back to bed.

[dino7c]

if hardcore flames fans feel this way this could be trouble

lets just leave a toxic wasteland in the ground and save some taxpayer money