[News] CalgaryNEXT Announcement. New arena details emerge.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by DiracSpike

They've already played five games which all had great weather.

There's three more this year before October 10 which should all be nice. More realistically there will be two or three games a year which won't be nice, INCLUDING playoffs.

I personally hate the concept of a dome for the football, the robbing of one nice summer game isn't worth any amount of climate controlled games later in the year IMO.

I watched a football game in Glendale a couple years ago and the fact it was inside didn't even register while I watched. It was a complete non-issue.

From a financial point of view it makes walk-up sales way more predictable, I imagine.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Ask the organizers for the Women's World Cup.

I knew that - thinking about Men's events.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Ask the organizers for the Women's World Cup.

When no one else bids is there really an option of grass vs turf?

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Tacopuck

You dont become a world class city by doing the bare bones. Its also not about trying to glamorize the city with fancy new facilities. If we want to be a world class city we have to attract the world's best people to live here. Plain and simple. If we ever want to un-hinge Calgary's dependence on the Oil & Gas industry and expand into other markets, we need the worlds most talented people. Why would these indemand people come to a city that doesn't offer the same level of living as the cities we will be competing with.

It goes deeper than just financial justifications, think longer term.

Because the world's most talented people could give less of a F*** about a new hockey rink and fieldhouse when deciding where to live...

[Locke]

Originally Posted by troutman

I knew that - thinking about Men's events.

I really dont know. I presume that the stadium will be turf, but I dont know what that means for the future.

[username]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

I would prefer open air myself as well, but the problem is that the cost of a retractable roof is excessive for the need, and a roof needs to be there for it to be usable at all times.

If we had an MLB team that played 81 home games a year then yes, a retractable roof would be worth it. For the Stamps to maybe play 12 games at home each year (incl playoffs, exhibition) is not worth it.

[Icon]

So I may have missed the detail... but that cost breakdown:

$200M from Flames
$200M from city
$240M Comm revitalization levy
$250M ticket tax

... Is that finalized & approved? Or their proposal to the city? (Has the city agreed to pay that yet or not)

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Cappy

Because the world's most talented people could give less of a F*** about a new hockey rink and fieldhouse when deciding where to live...

What if those talented people were athletes using the facilities?

[Russic]

If the non-scientific poll King conducted is accurate, the no-roof fans are totally outnumbered by the roof fans. I'm willing to bet for every person claiming they won't go to an enclosed CFL game, there's 5 that would take their spot. I actively refuse almost every Stamps ticket I'm offered based purely on weather uncertainty.

[ThatsRobbery]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The last time Metallica came through town they still came but it was a "lesser" show than the rest of the tour. Their in the round stage had to be on one side of the arena and not in the middle and they had to leave out some of the pyro and other special effects due to limitations of the building.

I saw the show in Calgary and Edmonton and while not a big deal they got the full show up there where as Calgary was scaled back a bit.

I'm pretty sure Metallica skipped Calgary the last time they were here cause they had their massive stage for their concert/horror movie (I believe this cause I went and saw them in Edmonton). You are thinking of the time before that.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DiracSpike

They've already played five games which all had great weather.

There's three more this year before October 10 which should all be nice. More realistically there will be two or three games a year which won't be nice, INCLUDING playoffs.

I personally hate the concept of a dome for the football, the robbing of one nice summer game isn't worth any amount of climate controlled games later in the year IMO.

we might have a different opinion on what a nice evening is

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

What if those talented people were athletes using the facilities?

then we have successfully diversified our economy and eliminated our dependence on oil and gas by having 50,000 athletes move to this city!

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

This is really cool but it probably also means the Stampede park is going to continue to get the shaft and remain with 50+ year old infrastructure.

Or the stampede board has a golden opportunity to repurpose the Saddledome into a kick ass convention center, conveniently located next to the too small Round Up center.

Put two together and - presto - convention center problem solved.

[Incogneto]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

@Mobile_Marty: Event centre (arena) has never been designed before. First of its kind. #CalgaryNEXT

I was sitting right infront of you.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by BoomBoom

I stand corrected. If you are in fact ken king, you crushed it today. I, for one, am a big fan of the calgarynext vision. This is the kind of ambition that I want for my city.

That's very nice to hear. I agree... ; )
Go forth and spread the good word!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by ThatsRobbery

I'm pretty sure Metallica skipped Calgary the last time they were here cause they had their massive stage for their concert/horror movie (I believe this cause I went and saw them in Edmonton). You are thinking of the time before that.

yes, I saw that show too...I meant the last time they were in both cities (Death Magnetic Tour)

the most recent Edmonton concert wasn't a tour at all they filmed the movie in Vancouver and had a "dry run" in Edmonton the night before

that being said if Calgary was up to the task they may have thrown in another show

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by troutman

I knew that - thinking about Men's events.

I believe friendlies can be played on artificial turf.

For something like a World Cup, they put grass in domes in 1994. It would all come down to how the facility itself is planned, I would think.

The speculation of trying for MLS in 10-15 years is interesting though. I would imagine we would have to be in natural grass for that. Suggests that even in a dome, natural light would be a priority for this facility.

[hockey.modern]

CalgaryPuck was just referenced on FAN960!

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Icon

So I may have missed the detail... but that cost breakdown:

$200M from Flames
$200M from city
$240M Comm revitalization levy
$250M ticket tax

... Is that finalized & approved? Or their proposal to the city? (Has the city agreed to pay that yet or not)

It would be proposed. Judging by the council's comments in the past, it will not go over well. The team wants to release the information so the citizens get pumped and force the city's hand.

[greentree]

Originally Posted by Russic

If the non-scientific poll King conducted is accurate, the no-roof fans are totally outnumbered by the roof fans. I'm willing to bet for every person claiming they won't go to an enclosed CFL game, there's 5 that would take their spot. I actively refuse almost every Stamps ticket I'm offered based purely on weather uncertainty.

In my experience, indoor football = bad spectator experience. Every. Single. Time.
I understand the rationale, roof required for year round multi-purpose use, but the reality is, indoor-only (fixed-roof) football is nearing extinction. Because once they have experienced it, customers generally dislike it.
Winnipeg and Regina got theirs right.