Federal Election Called for Oct 19, 2015

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Could anyone tell me why the Liberals are opposed to the Northern Gateway pipeline? Harper's antics are pushing me towards the Liberals, but I take issue with their opposition to this. Perhaps I don't understand it.

Originally Posted by Ashartus

At least on paper, based on much higher potential environmental effects than other pipelines. Probably also in part based on votes - people in BC are pretty against it and they have a lot more potential to win votes in BC than Alberta.

Realistically I think Northern Gateway is pretty much dead without major changes so it's not a big election issue for me.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell. There is a lot of internal and external things going against it, that at this point, it is pretty much a dead issue and politically opportunistic to be opposed to it. If the Liberals were to be elected, I would suspect that a new pipeline plan with a new name would be devised with their stamp on it so they can take credit.

[MarchHare]

Trudeau on Northern Gateway:

For similar reasons, I’m not a proponent of the Northern Gateway Pipeline … which runs through the Great Bear Rainforest, which has spectacularly failed at getting community buy-in from First Nations communities and from local communities that could be potentially affected by it. And it’s not just an environmental argument, it’s also an economic argument. There are 20,000 British Columbians who make their living on the sea around Haida Gwaii and on the Pacific Coast. They would all be in peril – those jobs, those livelihoods – with a catastrophic accident, which, unfortunately, is all too capable.

Trudeau on the Kinder Morgan pipeline:

I am, however, very interested in the Kinder Morgan pipeline, the Trans Mountain pipeline that is making its way through. I certainly hope that we’re going to be able to get that pipeline approved. And I hope that Kinder Morgan learns from Enbridge’s experience of short-cutting or going too light on community buy-in. Ultimately governments grant permits, but only communities grant permission.

Source for both quotes: http://commonsensecanadian.ca/REPORT...ine-vancouver/

[killer_carlson]

Observations from Edmonton where the NDP are poised to take up to 4 seats:

• Very few elections signs anywhere. You wouldn't know there is an election going on based on where i've been.
• What lawns signs are out are exclusively NDP. No Conservative, no Liberal, no Green. Only NPD. Not a lot, but only NDP.
• Growing sentiment of people (not necessarily me, but i'd say a large percentage of the voters who occupy the "center" of the spectrum): Look, we tried conservative provincially for years, and as much as people are griping about Notley's government, there weren't very many bright shining bulbs in the PC provincial caucus the last several years either. They were more interested in being government than they were about governing for Alberta. I'm open to change because what we've been getting isn't very good and they stopped listening years ago. Same as Federal. Tried them, hasn't been too great for Edmonton, maybe it's time for the alternatives.
• That being said, when talk of the NDP comes up, the anti-oilsands comments out of the various NDP candidates does have people concerned, especially with Notley's silence about them. There are also 2 seats where I think there could be a dramatic shift in the polls between Liberal and NDP if Trudeau falters or more anti-oilsand NDP comments are made. Those seats see a true vote split which benefits the Conservatives.

[GGG]

If you want to see an issue that Muclair is just Harper left look at his pledge to restore door to door mail delivery. He is just pledging things to get elected.

Its bad policy, the investment in the boxes is done, door to door was already phased out 20 years ago for new communities. But it plays to the inner city base so it gets in.

So far the only candidate that isn't just trying to blatently appeal to the base with bad policy is the liberals.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Observations from Edmonton where the NDP are poised to take up to 4 seats:

• Very few elections signs anywhere. You wouldn't know there is an election going on based on where i've been.
• What lawns signs are out are exclusively NDP. No Conservative, no Liberal, no Green. Only NPD. Not a lot, but only NDP.
• Growing sentiment of people (not necessarily me, but i'd say a large percentage of the voters who occupy the "center" of the spectrum): Look, we tried conservative provincially for years, and as much as people are griping about Notley's government, there weren't very many bright shining bulbs in the PC provincial caucus the last several years either. They were more interested in being government than they were about governing for Alberta. I'm open to change because what we've been getting isn't very good and they stopped listening years ago.
• That being said, when talk of the NDP comes up, the anti-oilsands comments out of the various NDP candidates does have people concerned, especially with Notley's silence about them. There are also 2 seats where I think there could be a dramatic shift in the polls between Liberal and NDP if Trudeau falters or more anti-oilsand NDP comments are made. Those seats see a true vote split which benefits the Conservatives.

It's fascinating how Alberta suddenly being perceived as much more 'in play' changes the way a politicians are talking about the oil sands. Personally, I think the best thing possible is that we move toward a political climate where these issues are discussed frankly between politicians and all parties feel an incentive to put forward workable, responsible platforms, rather than simply using the issue as either a bogey-man or a rallying-cry, depending on which side of the spectrum they're on. And obviously we're not there yet, but it feels like we're slowly moving that way.

[Fuzz]

I believe it was on CBC radio where Eric Gernier was saying there are several Saskatchewan riding's now favoring NDP. With the new riding boundaries a lot of the urban/rural riding's are now strictly rural and urban which helps the NDP in urban centres. So we could see more orange in Saskatchewan. He said Liberals aren't really a contender in them.

[Ashartus]

Originally Posted by GGG

If you want to see an issue that Muclair is just Harper left look at his pledge to restore door to door mail delivery. He is just pledging things to get elected.

Its bad policy, the investment in the boxes is done, door to door was already phased out 20 years ago for new communities. But it plays to the inner city base so it gets in.

So far the only candidate that isn't just trying to blatently appeal to the base with bad policy is the liberals.

Actually I believe the Liberals have promised to restore door to door mail delivery too. They're all just as bad when it comes to those games.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Trudeau on Northern Gateway:



Trudeau on the Kinder Morgan pipeline:



Source for both quotes: http://commonsensecanadian.ca/REPORT...ine-vancouver/

Those sound like reasonable positions to me (especially in light of the duty to consult with first nations people now firmly entrenched in our law.)

[Slava]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Observations from Edmonton where the NDP are poised to take up to 4 seats:

• Very few elections signs anywhere. You wouldn't know there is an election going on based on where i've been.
• What lawns signs are out are exclusively NDP. No Conservative, no Liberal, no Green. Only NPD. Not a lot, but only NDP.
• Growing sentiment of people (not necessarily me, but i'd say a large percentage of the voters who occupy the "center" of the spectrum): Look, we tried conservative provincially for years, and as much as people are griping about Notley's government, there weren't very many bright shining bulbs in the PC provincial caucus the last several years either. They were more interested in being government than they were about governing for Alberta. I'm open to change because what we've been getting isn't very good and they stopped listening years ago. Same as Federal. Tried them, hasn't been too great for Edmonton, maybe it's time for the alternatives.
• That being said, when talk of the NDP comes up, the anti-oilsands comments out of the various NDP candidates does have people concerned, especially with Notley's silence about them. There are also 2 seats where I think there could be a dramatic shift in the polls between Liberal and NDP if Trudeau falters or more anti-oilsand NDP comments are made. Those seats see a true vote split which benefits the Conservatives.

Just out of curiousity, would people gravitate to an ABC kind of mentality? I forsee that coming up more often than not in Alberta where some ridings people will vote for whichever of the NDP/Libs has the best chance.

[RougeUnderoos]

Not to get all "age-ist" here, but is this door-to-door mail delivery an issue for anyone under the age of 65?

I'm positive that the whole thing is just pandering to old people, because old people vote, and old people are used to getting the mail.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Not to get all "age-ist" here, but is this door-to-door mail delivery an issue for anyone under the age of 65?

I'm positive that the whole thing is just pandering to old people, because old people vote, and old people are used to getting the mail.

Its really a non-issue for most people, but the other group that probably has a vested interest are the unions and the employees who would be cut if the service stops.

[Leeman4Gilmour]

I haven't read all the pages in this thread so forgive and ignore if this has already been linked:

https://canada.isidewith.com/political-quiz

I was shocked by my result (Libertarian)

[Esoteric]

Originally Posted by Leeman4Gilmour

I haven't read all the pages in this thread so forgive and ignore if this has already been linked:

https://canada.isidewith.com/political-quiz

I was shocked by my result (Libertarian)

I was 86% Liberal, 85% NDP, 81% Green, 79% Libertarian and 27% conservative.

I hope another vote compass is done this year for the federal election.

[Fuzz]

Whelp, 95% Liberal, 90% Green/NDP. Only 39% CPC and 37% Christian Heritage. Should I be disturbed seeing how close Cons/Christian Heritage are? Because I am. *shudders*

[Blaster86]

93% Liberal 83% NDP 80% Green (urk.) 25% Conservative.

[FlameOn]

Been voting Conservative since I started but now all my stances align with Liberals and NDP... I'm also 85% Communist lol.

[Bootsy]

74% Libertarian , 69% Conservative , 60% Liberal , 36% NDP , 24% Green.

[Leeman4Gilmour]

After a quick Google on Libertarian, you have to give Moen credit for a sense of humour:

[octothorp]

77% NDP, 73% Liberal, 43% Conservative. Which is actually not as big a spread as I think I normally get in this sort of survey. I selected Bill C-51 as one of my most important issues, which I suspect is what put NDP over the top.

[Regorium]

I just wanted to test out the site, and so I went basically as conservative as I could go.

84% Conservative, 67% Christian, 55% Lib, 54% NDP.

My conclusion is that the Cons have very clear and very defined stances on issues (leading to strict matches from questions), whereas Lib/NDP have vague statements in the same areas which allow more types of answers to match.