The racist stereotyping in this thread however is pretty awful.
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white people tut-tutting at the cultural practices of an isolated group of people
That's some fine dissociative reasoning there.
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I suppose you can understand that I feel I understand the cultural behaviors of men in North America, which is why I push for mass change related to our collective behavior.
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Because it makes hillbillies like you angry.
I'm sure your superior ideals will be welcomed with open arms.
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That's some fine dissociative reasoning there.
I'm sure your superior ideals will be welcomed with open arms.
Don't feed him, he is the single largest hypocrite this board has ever seen and just baits people to try and prove some completely false moral superiority. It's amusing to watch though.
As for the OP...yeah that's some nasty stuff, and I don't give a flying frig if it is being explained away as some "cultural" reasoning...it's freaking wrong on every level.
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Not a fun video to watch. Different mindset/culture, but yeah.. hard to see.
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Can you really logically condemn racial stereotyping of the world's most prevalent race while shrugging off your own racial stereotyping because you're talking about white people? A visible minority on the world stage? It's not like either race has it hard in their respective primary areas of the world. Don't be racist. Pretty simple rule. Nobody should be excused based on which race they target.
Horrible whaling practices aside, I doubt very much the citizens of China worry much about white-enacted oppression.
Can you really logically condemn racial stereotyping of the world's most prevalent race while shrugging off your own racial stereotyping because you're talking about white people? A visible minority on the world stage? It's not like either race has it hard in their respective primary areas of the world. Don't be racist. Pretty simple rule. Nobody should be excused based on which race they target.
Horrible whaling practices aside, I doubt very much the citizens of China worry much about white-enacted oppression.
Ummm... no. Maybe in terms of numbers you could make the point there are less white people than other races but that's kind of a misleading point considering all the power, wealth and influence "white people" have had in general since, well, forever. Besides white people probably make up around 800 million to 1 billion (wild guess) of the world's population anyway... hardly small number, and definitely not a visible minority IMO.
Ummm... no. Maybe in terms of numbers you could make the point there are less white people than other races but that's kind of a misleading point considering all the power, wealth and influence "white people" have had in general since, well, forever. Besides white people probably make up around 800 million to 1 billion (wild guess) of the world's population anyway... hardly small number, and definitely not a visible minority IMO.
I think you are right that "visible minority" isn't the best term generally speaking. Han Chinese make up about 6x the population of White North America and in China are certainly very very far from any white-based oppression.
If white-focussed racism is acceptable when referring to North America, then Han Chinese focussed racism is certainly acceptable when referring to China. In my view, neither is. Better to practice neither than excuse your own use of one while "tut-tutting" against the use of the other!
Ummm... no. Maybe in terms of numbers you could make the point there are less white people than other races but that's kind of a misleading point considering all the power, wealth and influence "white people" have had in general since, well, forever. Besides white people probably make up around 800 million to 1 billion (wild guess) of the world's population anyway... hardly small number, and definitely not a visible minority IMO.
Ok, just playing devils advocate here, cause I generally side with the accepted minority...
But I'm not sure this argument makes any sense. If the white people achieved more with a lesser population (wealth, power, etc.), doesn't that that just mean, they pushed society further and did more?
Obviously white people, at the origins of their differences as a race/culture did not inherit wealth or the systems you are talking about. If African and Asian cultures existed before, and Asians number more, where did white wealth come from? When was the tipping point in which white culture became the dominant culture DESPITE its far less dominant numbers. White people, world wise have always been the minority, and still are. It's very easy to look at the last 500 years and say 'bad Europeans' but human culture is 6000 years old, and humanity is 1,000,000 years old. If your talking world concepts, these posters may have a point.
The only way to resolve it is to know, all people are one people. We've all conquered each other for a long time. White, brown, black, atrocities all around. Even to our own race. But we're only one race. The human race.
We can talk about current societal problems. Black people are treated horribly (other examples as well, but for now). Mostly in the US, and to a lesser extent over the rest of the world. Yes, they are oppressed. And in today's society we need to fix it. But when you start getting into deep history, you lose ground. All have been oppressed. And racial lines blur.
There is no 'white domination of power' over a long term. We came from darker people. It's just human on human violence. Sadly.
Horrible whaling practices aside, I doubt very much the citizens of China worry much about white-enacted oppression.
Interestingly, I would argue that you're quite incorrect about that. China's wounds, inflicted by the Western imperialist powers (and of course Japan) in the 19th and 20th centuries, are still very fresh in the minds of many Chinese. It is referred to there as the Hundred Years of National Humiliation.
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Ok, just playing devils advocate here, cause I generally side with the accepted minority...
But I'm not sure this argument makes any sense. If the white people achieved more with a lesser population (wealth, power, etc.), doesn't that that just mean, they pushed society further and did more?
Obviously white people, at the origins of their differences as a race/culture did not inherit wealth or the systems you are talking about. If African and Asian cultures existed before, and Asians number more, where did white wealth come from? When was the tipping point in which white culture became the dominant culture DESPITE its far less dominant numbers. White people, world wise have always been the minority, and still are. It's very easy to look at the last 500 years and say 'bad Europeans' but human culture is 6000 years old, and humanity is 1,000,000 years old. If your talking world concepts, these posters may have a point.
The only way to resolve it is to know, all people are one people. We've all conquered each other for a long time. White, brown, black, atrocities all around. Even to our own race. But we're only one race. The human race.
We can talk about current societal problems. Black people are treated horribly (other examples as well, but for now). Mostly in the US, and to a lesser extent over the rest of the world. Yes, they are oppressed. And in today's society we need to fix it. But when you start getting into deep history, you lose ground. All have been oppressed. And racial lines blur.
There is no 'white domination of power' over a long term. We came from darker people. It's just human on human violence. Sadly.
White people have basically been in power since the fall of the Roman Empire (depending if you classify the Romans as white). How or why they got there wasn't my point. I realize all races are/have been barbaric power mongers, but white people have been the most successful at it in recent times. My point was calling whites a visible minority is wrong because it implies that they struggle with similar issues that actual oppressed minorities struggle with. Fact is, we're richer, more powerful and have far more influence in the world than any other race... comparatively small numbers be damned.
