I wonder how the citizens of the provinces from which Harper has not appointed senators feel about him deliberately leaving them under-represented in the upper chamber.
All of the leaders did well I thought, I don't think that debate will change many people's voting intentions, all of the leaders probably appealed to their base voters.
I gotta say though that debate was a LOT better than the debates last year. Not even close.
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Disclaimer: I missed part of the debate, so I may not have the full picture. However, here is my take.
Harper didn't need to do much, and he didn't try to do too much. He took his lumps a few times, but I would say he mostly weathered the storm. The only issue he looked a little weak on was senate reform. I would give him a B+.
Mulcair... I feel like if you turned the picture off and just listened to him, he might have come across better. He had a lot to say and (other than a little oops in the closing) went to his talking points very effectively. In the end, I've seen him do a lot better, and he needs to watch the "crazy eyes". I would say a low B-.
May was better than I expected--but that isn't saying a lot. She got smacked upside the head by Mulcair on pipelines--and her attack on him was a gift to the NDP, because it made it possible for him to look reasonable by comparison. Too many times she either got left out entirely or came across as unreasonable. I give her a C-.
Trudeau had the lowest expectations, but the most to lose. He generally did well, except for that closing--what the hell was that?! It sounded like he was in grade 12 running for class president. Given the low expectations I would say B+, with a penalty for that ridiculous closing statement--so a B.
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Pretty impressed with May. Thought she was way less crazy/eccentric/weird than last time. She aso caught Harper a few times (oil subsidies, C51, senate) and used way less talking points and more details/facts.
Trudeau had the lowest expectations, but the most to lose. He generally did well, except for that closing--what the hell was that?! It sounded like he was in grade 12 running for class president. Given the low expectations I would say B+, with a penalty for that ridiculous closing statement--so a B.
He generally did well, except for that closing--what the hell was that?! It sounded like he was in grade 12 running for class president. Given the low expectations I would say B+, with a penalty for that ridiculous closing statement--so a B.
I was going to make a drama teacher comment but didn't want to come across as too critical
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I thought Trudeau was awful...particularly at the end. That was just a terrible pitch.
Mulcair was really good.... however (other than the "creep" factor he exuded at times) I think he got one right in the teeth towards the end when the subject was security and he once again spun it back to the environment which just looked foolish.
May was way better than I thought she was ever able to be, though that's not saying much.
Harper was just...there. really had no answer on the Senate stuff and no where to hide when it was brought up. Though he did feel a lot more "Prime Ministerial" than any of the others, which he should be able to pull off of course.
Harper admitted a recession though. Thats a big blow.
Disagree there, there is no avoiding the issue so he might as well get in front of it. Granted I am biased but I thought he got his point across that the economy is doing very well outside of the resource sector which is entirely out of our control.
I was hoping to see a stronger Trudeau. Unfortunately he was awful. He should not be in politics at all let alone leading the Liberals.
Solid performances by the rest. I thought Mulcair would have done better, he had some odd moments. Harper was uninspiring, but I expected that. May was decent and is now down one notch on the crazy lady meter in my books, but still a disaster.
I was hoping to see a stronger Trudeau. Unfortunately he was awful. He should not be in politics at all let alone leading the Liberals.
Solid performances by the rest. I thought Mulcair would have done better, he had some odd moments. Harper was uninspiring, but I expected that. May was decent and is now down one notch on the crazy lady meter in my books, but still a disaster.
Weird because aside from here, every where else seems to think that Trudeau did really well. Even a guy in the Sun wrote a column saying how well he did when the expectations were so low.
As usual though, whichever party people support is who won the debate. I would say Mulcair lost and May/Trudeau won. Harper didn't lose and that's really what he needs to do as incumbent. Realistically though the election is over 2 months away...so anything from tonight isn't a factor that far in advance anyway.
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