07-24-2015, 09:11 AM
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#101
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by MattyC
I'm sorry, here's money. Voila! I'm not racist anymore!
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What makes you say that?
If anything, the guy felt remorse, maybe just maybe he can actually realize that he has issues now and can work to fix them.
People can change. But I don't think anyone is defending his racist actions.
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07-24-2015, 09:20 AM
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#102
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Weitz
What makes you say that?
If anything, the guy felt remorse, maybe just maybe he can actually realize that he has issues now and can work to fix them.
People can change. But I don't think anyone is defending his racist actions.
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Maybe he can. I believe he can. I don't believe that happens in a few days with an apology and $10,000. If he gets help for his anger and transgressions, I'll be inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Throwing money at them and saying sorry does sweet f*** all in changing who he is, which is what needs to happen.
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07-24-2015, 09:24 AM
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#103
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Weitz
Police laid charges but they were later dropped due to lack of evidence. Now potentially investigating as a hate crime?
Interesting.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyC
I'm sorry, here's money. Voila! I'm not racist anymore!
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Interesting indeed. I don't believe you are correct, it appears like they never even bothered to lay charges; sounds like the police totally dismissed it.
Interesting considering how utterly blatant and clear the evidence is.
http://globalnews.ca/news/2125439/ma...er-identified/
Criminal and human rights lawyer and former crown prosecutor Jeinis Patel is having trouble understanding why RCMP officers only re-opened the case after Global News aired the video.
“When you see something that is racially motivated—and I do believe this was racially motivated—and there’s enough justification in the video to support that, you wonder why the police officer did not pursue the charges,” said Patel.
After the assault, Qayyum filed a complaint with police and while the passenger paid for damage to the cab, RCMP decided not to lay charges. Qayyum didn’t feel the investigating officer took him seriously when he originally brought his complaint forward.
“She (the RCMP officer) said it’s a waste of time of court because there is nothing in it. (She said) he’s a nice guy, he’s ready to pay, he has no criminal record.”
The RCMP have since reopened their investigation after Global News contacted them.
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07-24-2015, 09:31 AM
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#104
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According to the guys lawyer they laid charges and they were later dropped due to lack of evidence.
http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/07/23...known-employer
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“What a lot of people don’t realize is that he was actually charged,” Dunn said, saying his client faced assault with a weapon and mischief charges.
“Those charges were not pursued by the police, and eventually were simply dropped on the basis that they did not feel there was enough evidence to substantiate those charges.”
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Last edited by Weitz; 07-24-2015 at 09:34 AM.
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07-24-2015, 09:36 AM
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#105
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Franchise Player
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As you say, that's "interesting" considering what the video shows.
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07-24-2015, 09:38 AM
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#106
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by chemgear
As you say, that's "interesting" considering what the video shows.
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I agree. I wonder if the camera was damaged since he ripped it off and threw it or whatever and it took awhile to save the video?
I am no tech expert so have no idea on that.
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07-24-2015, 09:44 AM
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#107
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Franchise Player
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According to the article (that you linked), he ripped the camera off and hit the poor guy with it on top of everything else. Thus the "assault with a weapon" thing I'm assuming.
Last edited by chemgear; 07-24-2015 at 09:51 AM.
Reason: grammer, doh!
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07-24-2015, 12:58 PM
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#108
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Franchise Player
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Has anyone heard Hulk Hogan's racist rant? His contract is officially terminated and WWE won't be selling any of his merch.
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07-24-2015, 02:12 PM
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#109
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Shame on Global, the taxi company and the driver for not reporting the whole story the first time around. There need to be serious consequences when you lie in the media and affect people's lives.
At the very least, that driver should return every penny of money he accepted in compensation and be forced to provide a full and public explanation of why he chose to lie to Global in the initial article. Global also needs to explain why they didn't bother to do a smidgen of research on this before airing it.
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07-24-2015, 02:19 PM
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#110
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
Shame on Global, the taxi company and the driver for not reporting the whole story the first time around. There need to be serious consequences when you lie in the media and affect people's lives.
At the very least, that driver should return every penny of money he accepted in compensation and be forced to provide a full and public explanation of why he chose to lie to Global in the initial article. Global also needs to explain why they didn't bother to do a smidgen of research on this before airing it.
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Was there something we're missing? What did the driver lie about? What's the lack of research?
Compensation was to Checkers, albeit part of it was lost of wages to the driver. It had always been reported that the man paid for the damages done. Since that's the only thing you alluded to, I'm not sure what you're talking about in this post.
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07-24-2015, 02:24 PM
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#111
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
Was there something we're missing? What did the driver lie about? What's the lack of research?
Compensation was to Checkers, albeit part of it was lost of wages to the driver.
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The cabbie told Global the guy was never charged and he only fixed the physical damage to the cab. He willfully omitted the part where he accepted a few thousand in compensation and that charges WERE laid, but the RCMP didn't move forward because they didn't feel they has enough evidence. The RCMP would have kept him advised throughout the investigation, so he can't claim ignorance on that matter.
The reaction would have been much different if he said the guy offered him compensation and an apology and he accepted. He should have also said he knew that charges were laid but latter dropped.
Global should have done some basic fact checking before the went to print. Even if the cabbie wasn't truthful with Global, they should have checked and printed the whole story. But the whole story wouldn't have sold as many clicks.
As a result of the cabbies deceit and Global's laziness, the guy lost his job and now probably has to lay low for fear of his safety.
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07-24-2015, 02:27 PM
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#112
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
The cabbie told Global the guy was never charged and he only fixed the physical damage to the cab. He willfully omitted the part where he accepted a few thousand in compensation and that charges WERE laid, but the RCMP didn't move forward because they didn't feel they has enough evidence.
The reaction would have been much different if he said the guy offered him compensation and an apology and he accepted. He should have also said he knew that charges were laid but latter dropped.
Global should have done some basic fact checking before the went to print. Even if the cabbie wasn't truthful with Global, they should have checked and printed the whole story. But the whole story wouldn't have sold as many clicks.
As a result of the cabbies deceit and Global's laziness, the guy lost his job and now probably has to lay low for fear of his safety.
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The reaction would have been exactly the same: The guy is a racist piece of ####. That other information doesn't change that even slightly. As to fearing for his safety....in Airdrie? Is that a joke?
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07-24-2015, 02:31 PM
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#113
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
As a result of the cabbies deceit and Global's laziness, the guy lost his job and now probably has to lay low for fear of his safety.
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Haha, what? Is this a troll post?
The cabbie made him lose his job?! The cabbie made the poor racist fear for his safety?! Oh no, that poor racist, whatever will he do?!
What am I even reading?
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07-24-2015, 02:33 PM
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#114
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
The cabbie told Global the guy was never charged and he only fixed the physical damage to the cab. He willfully omitted the part where he accepted a few thousand in compensation and that charges WERE laid, but the RCMP didn't move forward because they didn't feel they has enough evidence. The RCMP would have kept him advised throughout the investigation, so he can't claim ignorance on that matter.
The reaction would have been much different if he said the guy offered him compensation and an apology and he accepted. He should have also said he knew that charges were laid but latter dropped.
Global should have done some basic fact checking before the went to print. Even if the cabbie wasn't truthful with Global, they should have checked and printed the whole story. But the whole story wouldn't have sold as many clicks.
As a result of the cabbies deceit and Global's laziness, the guy lost his job and now probably has to lay low for fear of his safety.
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Oh boo hoo. I'm all for responsible journalism but we always knew the man paid for damages done. He never provided compensation to the driver, technically (again to Checkers who provided the lost of wages to the driver), and the driver never accepted the apology - and regardless it doesn't change the fact that everyone is mad at the racist piece of #### for being a racist piece of ####. If the driver said the man wasn't charged, it's pedantry to get upset about the driver's wording. To the driver, it's the same thing, he faced no further consequences.
The whole story was the video of the racist man berating a taxi cab driver because of his race. That video doesn't change because of minute details and trying to blame the victim is hogwash.
Last edited by Oling_Roachinen; 07-24-2015 at 02:36 PM.
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07-24-2015, 02:39 PM
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#115
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Franchise Player
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It's funny because his username is whiteout.
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07-24-2015, 02:39 PM
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#116
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by chemgear
Haha, what? Is this a troll post?
The cabbie made him lose his job?! The cabbie made the poor racist fear for his safety?! Oh no, that poor racist, whatever will he do?!
What am I even reading?
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So reporting a story that is full of half truths and blatant omission is fine so long as the person it is directed against isn't a fabulous person?
Global should be reporting the story responsibly, not just reporting what is told to them by one side in an incredibly biased matter. He got fired once Global found out where he work, printed their name and tried to contact them. If they knew the whole story regarding personal compensation to the cabbie and the fact the RCMP did charge him, it might not have gone so far.
Then there is the question of why this is even coming back up two years later when it was already resolved.
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07-24-2015, 02:42 PM
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#117
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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So am I getting this right, the guy should not have gotten fired for being an ####### racist because (allegedly) there was some shoddy reporting? I'm reading this like whiteout thinks Global's reporting is more in the wrong than what the guy said and did. Ok then....
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07-24-2015, 02:44 PM
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#118
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
Then there is the question of why this is even coming back up two years later when it was already resolved.
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The problem, certain people feel, is it wasn't resolved. Outside of the video of the actual racist rant, the fact that the RCMP decided to do 'nothing' is part of the story now. People are wondering why the man didn't have the charges stick.
And again, all of that is second fiddle to the actual video, which had never been revealed. It should be perfectly acceptable for people to watch that video and feel anger. Does it occurring 2 years ago change anything? Not to me.
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07-24-2015, 02:45 PM
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#119
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
So am I getting this right, the guy should not have gotten fired for being an ####### racist because (allegedly) there was some shoddy reporting? I'm reading this like whiteout thinks Global's reporting is more in the wrong than what the guy said and did. Ok then....
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Yes, because Global reported that the man was not charged, instead of had the charges dismissed shortly after, the man is indeed not a racist and it's the cabbie's fault.
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07-24-2015, 02:55 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
So reporting a story that is full of half truths and blatant omission is fine so long as the person it is directed against isn't a fabulous person?
Global should be reporting the story responsibly, not just reporting what is told to them by one side in an incredibly biased matter. He got fired once Global found out where he work, printed their name and tried to contact them. If they knew the whole story regarding personal compensation to the cabbie and the fact the RCMP did charge him, it might not have gone so far.
Then there is the question of why this is even coming back up two years later when it was already resolved.
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He was offered, but it was not enough. The Driver went through a traumatic experience and I doubt the money or an apology would fix it. You're swinging way over the other way and trying to blame a victim who was traumatized and that is really harsh.
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