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Old 07-18-2015, 03:30 PM   #41
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Figured Chara was going to get big dollars so I focused on Beauchemin and very pleased to get him. I think he is going to do very well in Colorado and put up points with the forward group there. Didn't pick him up on waivers earlier as I didn't want to have him on a 1-way as he was a free agent and wasn't sure what his NHL contract would look like.

Erik Cole is a cheap gamble for a 69ov forward. He will likely retire this year, but he will hopefully produce while he is on the roster.
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Old 07-18-2015, 03:38 PM   #42
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Mason Raymond was accidentally added to Washington instead of Winnipeg
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Old 07-18-2015, 05:24 PM   #43
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Lack will be the starter in Carolina. They tried handing over the reigns to Khudobin and it didn't work out. Lack will definitely be given the first chance.

Isles have $19.5 mill tied in goaltending. See what they do next. Any team looking for a number 1?
We'll see when the season starts...I still think it will be Ward.

As for teams looking for a starting rated goalie, I do have two and only need one.
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Old 07-18-2015, 06:47 PM   #44
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Old 07-18-2015, 07:18 PM   #45
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put most of my egss in the "Cam Ward reasonable contract" basket, I see I didnt have a chance in hell. 2 years at max contract is quite the risky contract.

St. Louis may be on the hunt for a #1 now

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Old 07-18-2015, 08:15 PM   #46
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Happy to add Joffrey Lupul to the mix. He will be getting VIP treatment at the Roxy.

First Free Agent we have signed, hopefully we did good and didn't overvalue him.
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Old 07-19-2015, 09:50 AM   #47
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My reliance on free agency is a good lesson for new GMs to our league and reminder for seasoned GMs. I had 30 mill in cap space to spend, I made 5 offers worth over 26 million and I only came away with 1 player, the player I offered the least amount of money to. Trading is still the best way to improve or change your teams.
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My reliance on free agency is a good lesson for new GMs to our league and reminder for seasoned GMs. I had 30 mill in cap space to spend, I made 5 offers worth over 26 million and I only came away with 1 player, the player I offered the least amount of money to. Trading is still the best way to improve or change your teams.
Exactly this. The "free" asset thing is always alluring, but there are 29 other teams wanting those "free" assets as well. Especially when there are only a couple that are any good each year.

You should try to enter free agency with as few needs as possible in case you strike out repeatedly like FF did.
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My reliance on free agency is a good lesson for new GMs to our league and reminder for seasoned GMs. I had 30 mill in cap space to spend, I made 5 offers worth over 26 million and I only came away with 1 player, the player I offered the least amount of money to. Trading is still the best way to improve or change your teams.
well you can look at it as you have 26M remaining going into the 2nd batch, I'm sure your odds of improving your team in this batch increases

I'm not disagreeing with you but I do think that you are premature with your assessment about not improving your team through FA
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We'll see when the season starts...I still think it will be Ward.

As for teams looking for a starting rated goalie, I do have two and only need one.
So....which guy is a starting goalie? Ward probably isn't. Andersson is questionable going forward.
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So....which guy is a starting goalie? Ward probably isn't. Andersson is questionable going forward.
I think at worst they become 1b goalies like Hiller/Ramo. We see so few straight up #1 goalies nowadays.

and I would move either guy.
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Old 07-20-2015, 08:35 AM   #52
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My reliance on free agency is a good lesson for new GMs to our league and reminder for seasoned GMs. I had 30 mill in cap space to spend, I made 5 offers worth over 26 million and I only came away with 1 player, the player I offered the least amount of money to. Trading is still the best way to improve or change your teams.
A fundamental flaw in the CPHL UFA system, IMO.
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Old 07-20-2015, 11:03 AM   #53
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If it makes anyone feel better...
I went after Ribiero.
I went from $9.08 to $8.08. Back and forth, constantly changing my offer.
I changed the offer in my email about 20 times, and I'm not even exaggerating.
Wondering if I should even pursue him. And was I paying too much?
I sent the email, happy I gave a fair offer, and knowing there were other options if I failed.
Tampa ended up winning with a $9.1 bid anyway.

My final offer was $8.08. I lost by $1,020,000.
I sure am glad I sent that one in, and not $9.08.
I would have felt horrible had I lost that bid by .02, or $20 thousand.

I'd like to see how many other bids came really really close, and also those that overbid by a huge amount, and didn't have a bid that was even close to their amount.
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I'm afraid to see what the only other offer on Tyutin and Mark Stuart were. I honestly expected to see more bids on them.
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Old 07-20-2015, 11:32 AM   #55
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I bid on Stuart. My offer was well under a million less than what you got him for.
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A fundamental flaw in the CPHL UFA system, IMO.
Can you expand on this?
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Old 07-20-2015, 12:49 PM   #57
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Can you expand on this?
It was the discussion we had last year or the year before.

I can't find the thread, but we talked about ways to improve/change the UFA bidding process because it felt like a lot of guess work/luck in the current model.


Or, at least I talked about things I thought improve things and was shot down


The below is my educated position based on my experience designing games/rule systems and also just generally being a nerd and thinking about this a lot.

Ottawa's problem is a problem that shouldn't happen in UFA bidding, but is impossible to fix in the current model. He's got tons of money to throw around but because he had to spread it out it weakened his position. Since players are done in large batches, GMs can't respond to getting outbid by increasing their bids on other players. That makes UFA time guesswork for teams that need to fill more than one roster spot.

I know the argument is that it takes skill to try and figure out what players will and won't get bids - but I disagree. A normal auction system or smaller batches would be much more skillful and reward shrewd GMs.

I understand that both of those options are much harder to manage and probably aren't worth the effort. But the current system is flawed if you are looking for a system that rewards/challenges good GMs.



I think ideally, what I'd like to see is each "player" maximizing their contract. Meaning, the value contracts shouldn't slip through the cracks because 29 teams were bidding on the top 3 players and the 30th team threw a super lowball contract toward a random player. In the NHL, the 28 teams that missed out on the #1 UFA would have still had bids going out to the other players, pushing up their value. That just doesn't happen in our system.





I purposely make the decision to not participate in UFA season because of the guesswork involved. This year I figured I'd try it out - and it was fine because I only had one roster spot to fill. I would have stayed away entirely if I had more than one hole though. It feels like a lottery, not a game.



Now, all that being said - the system is suitable for the level of effort required. I understand the large batch system is ideal and easier to manage. I also understand that it won't change without some kind of software/system to manage it better.


Please note: I'm not complaining because I lost out in UFA. It was impossible for me to win the player I was bidding on after the results had been revealed. I guessed wrong. I would have just rather not had to guess... but in the end, I'll fill the roster spot via trade.



Anyone want to buy 7M in cap space? Cheap cheap!
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Also, please don't take my post as a shot at the management or the way the CPHL does things. It's great as a whole and there's something for everyone. My suggestions/thoughts are only posed as constructive criticism and suggestions that I think would improve the game. If I'm wrong, that's fine!
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1st IDEA - Just tossing ideas out there... what if we had a Draft Day 2.0 for UFA? Done in chat/forum like we do for the draft.

2nd IDEA - Also, what if we threw in a randomizer "Wants" list for each player using http://random.org

Having a list of like:
- Wants to play in West
- Wants to play in East
- Wants to play for a contender (team that made playoffs last year)
- Wants to play for rebuilding team
- Wants to sign a 1 year deal
- Wants to sign a 3 year deal
etc.

Those items are just off the top of my head but the list would have to be significantly bigger. Then we use the randomizer, take the top 2 and it then gets posted what each players "wants" are.

For transparency purposes we could stream it live (I could volunteer to do this).

I think these ideas would somewhat help what Dave is also suggesting because if your team does not fit a players "wants" then you wouldn't be giving them an offer.

Again, just a cool idea that I thought of... flame away.
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Are you just saying this because you noticed my book "winning: sealed bid auctions" and now feel unprepared for my next-level strategic thinking?
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