Road Rage on a baby

[Superflyer]

Most of you have probally already heard about this story in the news yesterday but I cannot believe that someone would do this.
http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/...73249-sun.html
The streets are becoming horrable. Now some a-hole throws something through a window and winds up hurting a baby. I hope they catch him and take him off the roads for good.
The police need to crack down on crappy drivers in this city, it happens way to much.

[EVERLAST]

I say this guy faces numerous charges including the obvious restitution paid to the family.

Just had an addition to our family and if this guy did this to me and my baby ......we'll we wont go there

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Thats just pretty sickening to read. What an *******, Im sure he didnt know that the baby was in the back, but still who the hell throws something at another car. Christ, give her the finger or you feel so inclined, but dont throw ****.

[J pold]

I just herd about this on the radio, just horrible, now I will admit I myself do sometimes let me anger get the best of me when I am behind the wheel but even in my most frustrating moments I would never even think to throw something at a car that is just insane

[Frank the Tank]

I can only hope that buddy in the silver car dies in a single car fireball of death crash on Deerfoot one day. If he is in any way, shape or form, a man, he'll own up after reading the article. I'm guessing he won't. Tool.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

I also think that this is a horrible thing, but I find Superfly's last sentance to be quite funny.

It's odd how whenever someone (I'm not talking about Superfly at all, it just brings it up because he mentioned it) get's a traffic ticket they ususally say that the police need to spend time working on real crimes, but when something like this happense people say the police need to crack down on crappy drivers.

Can't have our cake and eat it too I suppose.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

It's odd how whenever someone (I'm not talking about Superfly at all, it just brings it up because he mentioned it) get's a traffic ticket they ususally say that the police need to spend time working on real crimes, but when something like this happense people say the police need to crack down on crappy drivers.

Can't have our cake and eat it too I suppose.

I've noticed this for quite a while, as well.

With the growth of this city, they really do need to hire more police to try and keep up. Even 5 years ago I recall the predictions were that Calgary wouldn't hit 1 Million until 2017, yet we did it earlier this year. Services just can't keep up with the increased growth.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

I also think that this is a horrible thing, but I find Superfly's last sentance to be quite funny.

It's odd how whenever someone (I'm not talking about Superfly at all, it just brings it up because he mentioned it) get's a traffic ticket they ususally say that the police need to spend time working on real crimes, but when something like this happense people say the police need to crack down on crappy drivers.

Can't have our cake and eat it too I suppose.

I don't think anybody should complain about getting a traffic ticket if they are driving irresponsibly. Most complaints come from people caught speeding at the bottom of some hill, going ten klicks over, at some cop fishing hole. Such practises don't encourage safe driving, they're just a cash cow.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I don't think anybody should complain about getting a traffic ticket if they are driving irresponsibly. Most complaints come from people caught speeding at the bottom of some hill, going ten klicks over, at some cop fishing hole. Such practises don't encourage safe driving, they're just a cash cow.

Not to derail the thread, and I know this has been discussed a million times, but cash cow or not there are a reason some places are "Cop fishing holes" Places such as Memorial Dr. right by the 14th st overpass, a place that I've personally gotten a ticket and I know several people on this site have complained about.

Maybe the reason that it is "Fishing Hole" is because too many people decide to speed through there. There is a terrible blind merge/yield right there, and to me making the speed limit there 50 is totally reasonable.

I got a ticket there, I don't speed there anymore. The more people who get tickets at these "Fishing holes" the more people will think twice next time they try to speed through them. Seems like encouraging safe driving habbits to me.

Also, I'd say no one SHOULD ever complain about any ticket they got, they broke the law, too bad, (every time I've gotten a ticket, the only thing comming out of my mouth is "Damn, wish I hadn't done that"), but should and do are two totally diffrent concepts.

[J pold]

Speeding tickets are pretty reasonable and most are justifiable, I have gotten one paid it the next day and didn’t complain, but don’t get me started on parking tickets…

[azzarish]

There is no excuse for ANY stupid behaviour on Deerfoot, because people die on that thing. Throwing objects at windows is just absolutely ridiculous . Just the other day I witnessed an incident that could have led to a fatal accident. I'm sick and tired of these f$%#ers who drive like maniacs on Deerfoot. If you wanna drive at 130 on a 100 speed limit go and f#$%ing do it somewhere where you don't put people's lives in danger.

[mykalberta]

While its descpicable that someone would actually throw something at another moving vehilce for staying in the fast lane, I have to call the BS police when this is written:

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The van was just about to make a lane change into the centre lane ... but obviously not fast enough for this other vehicle.
"

A mom in a minivan with a 1yo was "just" about to pull out of the fast lane. That is BS. She obviously had no intention. If you arent going at least 10km over the limit you shouldnt be in the fast lane.

HW2 on my trips to Edmonton is brutal for this, mid-30's couple in their jetta with the cruiose control at 115, pass a semit at going 110. Give me a break. Speed to 130-140 to pass and then slow back down, it isnt difficult.

MYK

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by azzarish

There is no excuse for ANY stupid behaviour on Deerfoot, because people die on that thing. Throwing objects at windows is just absolutely ridiculous . Just the other day I witnessed an incident that could have led to a fatal accident. I'm sick and tired of these f$%#ers who drive like maniacs on Deerfoot. If you wanna drive at 130 on a 100 speed limit go and f#$%ing do it somewhere where you don't put people's lives in danger.

I was in my friend's car driving down Deerfoot, when some guy pulled up next to us and was freaking out. We weren't even really sure why he was upset (although later after thinking about it there may have been an accidental cutoff). Meanwhile this guy takes a filled slurpee cup and throws it at my friend's car, hitting the window.

I couldn't believe it! As I started rolling down the window and yelling something about how this wasn't Mario Kart my friend just switched lanes and kept adjusting speeds until eventually he just drove off.

Moral of the story: This isn't Mario Kart. There's no need to throw **** at cars going 100kmph.

[ken0042]

I find it odd that people (not anybody in particular here) are ready to say that we have a problem with road rage, but nobody wants to explore the root cause of the rage.

And from my experience of getting angry at somebody; it's usually because they do something stupid or illegal in their car. Now, before anybody gets the wrong idea; I think what the guy in the silver car here was the most in the wrong.

Why is it that I can pass a drivers test at age 16, and then I never have to be re-tested for the rest of my life? It's been 20 years since anybody tested my ability to drive; and on that test I had to do 2 things that are illegal here in Calgary; one is a U turn at a traffic light; and the other was a "California Lane Change." When I got my Alberta license 15 years ago they just handed it to me; no test or anything.

When my sister and I started driving I recall my dad being shocked when we told him there is a rule as to who has right of way at a 4 way stop.

Also, with this being a mom with a baby in the car; it takes extra skills to be able to keep an eye on the baby in the back seat as well as operate a vehicle under freeway conditions. Not saying the mom was necessarily wrong in this case, but I have seen moms as well as dads who are not up to handling the task.

Yes, most of us have cooler heads when dealing with the idiots on the road. But why should we have to learn to have cooler heads; instead of educating the idiots or getting them off the road?

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by ken0042

lso, with this being a mom with a baby in the car; it takes extra skills to be able to keep an eye on the baby in the back seat as well as operate a vehicle under freeway conditions. Not saying the mom was necessarily wrong in this case, but I have seen moms as well as dads who are not up to handling the task.

What skills do you need? The baby is strapped into a car seat (or at least she damn well should be) and isn't going anywhere or in any danger. And if the baby is under a year old, there's really nothing you can do since you can't see a rear facing baby while you're driving.

[Regulator75]

Sure there is some days when we get frustrated during our daily drive.
Sure, I get angry at other drivers. Sometimes I wish I had a rocket launcher attached to my car... I would run out of ammo real quick some days...

One for every person on deerfoot who doesn't even go the speed limit, doesn't signal, doesn't shoulder check, doesn't know how to merge or yield, doesn't know what the "fast lane" is / or how it works, doesn't know there head lights are off, on the phone eating a hotdog, can't stay inside the lines... Totally oblivious to all the cars around them.

As for these lunatics who actually cross the Insanity line and throw things and run other drivers off the road, even following them and confronting them.

They should be rounded up and shipped to Toronto.
They will never complain about Calgary's traffic/driver's again.

Would I ever re-act like these tools? NO.
Just take a deep breath and count to 10. Or just re-load.

[Ironhorse]

I had a moment of sweet pleasure a few weeks ago. A carload of what appeared to be kids in their late teens / early twenties cut across 3 lanes (from the fast lane) right in front of us on Deerfoot SB by Ikea, going about 130. We were in our truck in the middle lane doing 100. They then passed a bunch of cars in the slow lane and cut back across towards the fast lane. As it happens, a CPS cruiser was sitting at the turnoff junction to Southland, and witnessed all this. He merged in, moved behind the a-holes and then hit the lights to pull them over. VERY satisfying to see.

Having said that, the driving skills in this city appear to have rapidly deteriorated over the last 5 years, especially on the major roads.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

A mom in a minivan with a 1yo was "just" about to pull out of the fast lane. That is BS. She obviously had no intention. If you arent going at least 10km over the limit you shouldnt be in the fast lane.

ha, my thoughts exactly. Obviously the other driver went way overboard, but Ive gotten pretty mad at people like this myself. I can't stand when you are waiting behind some tool doing the speed limit in the fast lane, and they driving around like its a lazy summer afternoon in the country.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

What skills do you need?

I'm talking about people who look back, have to pick up the toy or juice the kid dropped. Or the kid starts to cry, so they have the rear view angled so they can make eye contact with the kid.

Once again, your post reflects what people should be doing. I don't have kids so I'm just going by what I see people doing behind the wheel of their mini vans.

Most recently for me was a few weeks ago. I'm in the fast lane of Deerfoot, and come up to a mini van doing 90 in the fast lane. The van makes what looks like 2 seperate attempts to move over to the middle lane without signalling; but it turns out the driver was looking over his shoulder and the van was just drifting within the lane. I then signal, shoulder check and change lanes, and accelerate to 100. Suddenly the driver is now all the way over in my lane (this time actually changing lanes) and is about to sideswipe me. I lay on the horn, move over to the right hand part of my lane, and the truck to my right moves over too in order to give me more room.

A baby in the car can be a distraction, and all I'm saying is that what we learned in driver's ed didn't prepare us for driving with sreaming kids in the car. (Unless you took drivers ed in Edmonton.)

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

I also think that this is a horrible thing, but I find Superfly's last sentance to be quite funny.

It's odd how whenever someone (I'm not talking about Superfly at all, it just brings it up because he mentioned it) get's a traffic ticket they ususally say that the police need to spend time working on real crimes, but when something like this happense people say the police need to crack down on crappy drivers.

Can't have our cake and eat it too I suppose.

Wrong. See, you associate speeding with crappy driving, also the method in which the police use to enforce speeding most of the time, PhotoRadar, does not actually have an impact on reducing speed and making the roads safer.

There is a reason some provinces in Canada have banned it, because it doesn't actually work for reducing speeds, however, it does make a ton of cash. I believe there was a study done which prompted the banning, saying it was far more effective to have cops drive around in visable patrol cars, if you wanted to reduce speed.

Now, the next time I see someone get pulled over for tailgating or something similar, will be the first.