2015 Flames Development Camp - July 6-10 UPD: Schedule and Roster announced

[Igster]

Originally Posted by kehatch

I am happy. But I am not ready to throw him into pro and start writing him onto the roster because of a good scrimmage in a July development camp. The same way I am not ready to start bumping Klimchuk down my prospect rankings because he didn't stand out.

Its a development camp in July. Take it for what it is.

But, but McDavid!!!!1!1!1!

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by bax

This camp isn't designed for players to try and make the team. It's called a development camp because it's gives the prospects a chance to learn what they need to work on and to meet everyone else in the organization. Nobody is "hurting their chances" at this camp. It's a learning tool.

With that being said I'm very pleased to hear that Janko is looking like one of the best players out there. In reality, he is expected to be. He is one of the oldest guys here.

Yes, I know it's a development camp, thanks.

But anyone that thinks that standing out and looking better than your peers isn't a good thing, well I don't know what to say to you.

This is a performance-based industry. And the guys that work hardest, and can separate themselves from the pack, are the ones that make it.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

But anyone that thinks that standing out and looking better than your peers isn't a good thing, well I don't know what to say to you.

Not one person even remotely suggested this.

[Poe969]

Janko played well and all but he didn't score 5 goals. I mean how can we even be excited about a prospect like him or any other prospects when they don't score 5 goals and are already penciled in as our first line centre????

The oilers just got another first overall pick so nothing else matters. I mean I didn't see people throw hats for Janko.....

[Hackey]

Lol. The Jankowski fan club is so defensive.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Lol. The Jankowski fan club is so defensive.

Lol. The Jankowski haters have egg on their faces... again.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by edslunch

Prior to camp there was a huge debate about whether Jankowski is trending to player or bust. His showing here doesn't prove he'll be a player but it does support the idea that he is trending towards one.

This is exactly what I would love everyone to remember in every draft.

There are no busts drafted on draft day. There are no superstars (maybe with the exception of those 'generational players' - but even then there was Daigle after all) drafted on draft day.

Anything can happen, and it is more important to actually see the players play and develop and see how they are trending, see if they are correcting their weaknesses, etc.

I remember when Gaudreau was drafted, and learning that on the road, opposing fans would sometimes chant: "Hit the midget!". People laughed when the Flames picked him - 135lbs? Are you kidding me??" As open minded as I USUALLY am, I had very big doubts as well. Thought "Oh, the Flames are probably just drafting one of those slick career AHL'ers to help develop other prospects on the farm". He has proved everyone wrong.

Jankowski was a project. People labeled him a bust very early on. Now he is at least showing that he does have very good potential, and his 'bust factor' is diminishing.

You look at a guy like Smith - passed over at the draft? Nothing but a meathead. Right? Kid has got some game.

Kanzig? Seriously? The Flames wasted a pick on a goon, when they can just sign one on the cheap any given off-season? Incredible character and the hardest worker in the entire organization - and BRIGHT!

Never write off a prospect until he actually busts. Never pencil one in until he pushes himself on there, but life is a lot better to live positively than negatively. At 17/18, 99.9% of us on these forums are making complete guesses, and nobody knows a bust.

[Komskies]

Regarding McDavid scoring 5 goals, he was playing against the Oilers after all. 5 goals is sort of expected.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Not one person even remotely suggested this.

except they did...

Originally Posted by bax

This camp isn't designed for players to try and make the team. It's called a development camp because it's gives the prospects a chance to learn what they need to work on and to meet everyone else in the organization. Nobody is "hurting their chances" at this camp. It's a learning tool.

With that being said I'm very pleased to hear that Janko is looking like one of the best players out there. In reality, he is expected to be. He is one of the oldest guys here.

[Robbob]

Out of curiosity, would Jankowski still be eligible to play in the CHL? He is 20 and doesn't turn till September. I'm not to familiar with the overage rules. I also keep forgetting how young he is because he has been around for so long.

[dammage79]

It's just nice to see Jankowski mature before our eyes. And then to have him play in this camp and kind of put at ease a lot of uncertainty as to whether he's progressing well enough is a nice feeling.

There's a lot of great talent out there in this development camp and he stood out in a big way ll week so far. With today being the real eye opener. Who cares how little some think of this camp as a barometer. Wet Blanket the crap out of it if you want.
Doesn't change the fact that people all over took notice today in a good way.

How about Kylington? Didn't hear a bad thing about him today either. And by all accounts has gotten better the more comfortable he felt on the ice. That's a great thing to me.

Klimchuk, owning the practice sessions like a boss showing his promise.

Everyones had their moments this week and we shouldn't toss them aside either "because prospect camp".

I think Baillie gets a contract after this week, the Flames can ink him to one before AUG.25th.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

except they did...

I am not sure how you are comprehending that, but I don't read anything in there that suggests standing out is a bad thing.

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by Robbob

Out of curiosity, would Jankowski still be eligible to play in the CHL? He is 20 and doesn't turn till September. I'm not to familiar with the overage rules. I also keep forgetting how young he is because he has been around for so long.

It's crazy to think about. Jankowski was drafted a year before Monahan but is only 29 days older than him. Monahan will be entering his 4th season in the NHL when Jankowski plays his first season of pro hockey.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

except they did...

What are you going on about? Where did I say that looking good at camp is a bad thing?

I only described the reasons why this camp is for development and not for trying to make the big squad.

Quit being ridiculous

[azzarish]

Kylington seems a very driven individual. Knows exactly what he needs to do to get where he aspires to be.

Shame he's playing in Sweden this year because I would liked to have seen him in the CHL.

[Caged Great]

I'm transferring the files to my computer now and then up to youtube. Might take a while, but I'm hoping to get the files up by 2:30. I'll upload them in this order first half - second half - OT - Shootout 1st half - Shootout 2nd half

[RyZ]

Originally Posted by bax

With that being said I'm very pleased to hear that Janko is looking like one of the best players out there. In reality, he is expected to be. He is one of the oldest guys here.

No he isn't. He's 20. Right around average age at this camp.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by azzarish

Kylington seems a very driven individual. Knows exactly what he needs to do to get where he aspires to be.

Shame he's playing in Sweden this year because I would liked to have seen him in the CHL.

Is he definitely playing in Sweden? Everything I've seen says he hasn't really decided where he's going to play yet. His WHL rights are owned by Brandon, and he could potentially play in the AHL as well.

[Tacopuck]

Originally Posted by Komskies

Regarding McDavid scoring 5 goals, he was playing against the Oilers after all. 5 goals is sort of expected.

To be honest I'm surprised he didnt score more.... calling it now: BUST

[Tron_fdc]

Jankowski's bday was 2 days from being ineligible for the 2012 draft. For that reason I think it's fair to compare him to the 2013 picks we have.

1st rd (6th) SEAN MONAHAN - C (Ottawa - OHL)
1st rd (22nd) EMILE POIRIER - LW (Gatineau - QMJHL)
1st rd (28th) MORGAN KLIMCHUK - LW (Regina - WHL)
3rd rd (67th) KEEGAN KANZIG - D (Victoria – WHL)
5th rd (135th) ERIC ROY – D (Brandon – WHL)
6th rd (157th) TIM HARRISON - RW (Dexter Prep – HIGH-MA)
7th rd (187th) RUSHAN RAFIKOV – D (Yaroslavl 2 – RUS-JR)
7th rd (198th) JOHN GILMOUR – D (Providence College – H-EAST)

Monahan is clearly the crown jewel here, but Janko is at or better than Poirier or Klimchuck RIGHT NOW he's still far from a bust. If he's still toiling in the AHL 3 years from now sure, but showing promise (based on what I've read in this thread) puts him right on line for an NHL trajectory.

I'd love to see him in the AHL, but another year in school might not be the worst choice.