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Old 07-03-2015, 03:46 PM   #101
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Stamkos is going to get 15 million a season at this rate.
He has to start negotiations at 11 million I think.
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:46 PM   #102
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So, after seeing this does anyone still wish O'Reilly was a Flame?

Huge overpayment.
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:51 PM   #103
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You have to be worried about a player that would ask for a contract like that. Not the tpe of guy you want to lead a team.
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Old 07-03-2015, 04:31 PM   #104
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Where are people getting the idea that bonuses aren't subject to escrow? The CBA clearly states:

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Old 07-03-2015, 06:19 PM   #105
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Not sure if "Bonuses" include signing bonuses, but one would think it would. Why else load the contract with signing bonuses? There must be some advantage.
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:28 PM   #106
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Not sure if "Bonuses" include signing bonuses, but one would think it would. Why else load the contract with signing bonuses? There must be some advantage.
Makes it buyout proof too, maybe that's it? No idea though, I'd be interested to hear Bobby Mac or someone explain how having the contract constructed this way is beneficial.
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Old 07-03-2015, 06:36 PM   #107
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$7.5 mill? Yikes. Makes mr wonder what Monahan is going to ask for when his contact is up.
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Old 07-03-2015, 07:18 PM   #108
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Yeah doesn't make sense for signing bonuses to not be subject to escrow, or every player will be demanding them.

The only advantage to O'Reilly is he gets most of his salary paid in one lump sum, instead of spread out over the season.
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Old 07-03-2015, 07:46 PM   #109
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Old 07-03-2015, 07:59 PM   #110
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$7.5 mill? Yikes. Makes mr wonder what Monahan is going to ask for when his contact is up.
Monahan won't get a dollar over $6 million on his next contract. Treliving knows how to manage a salary cap.
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Gaudreau is a lot more marketable than Monahan. He is the player that non-Calgary fans talk about when they talk about the Flames. He would be more well known than RoR
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Old 07-03-2015, 08:08 PM   #112
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Yeah doesn't make sense for signing bonuses to not be subject to escrow, or every player will be demanding them.

The only advantage to O'Reilly is he gets most of his salary paid in one lump sum, instead of spread out over the season.
Aren't signing bonuses still paid in the event of a lockout/strike or something like that? The current CBA goes until the end of the 21-22, so the end of this contract could be affected.
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Old 07-03-2015, 08:55 PM   #113
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You have to be worried about a player that would ask for a contract like that. Not the tpe of guy you want to lead a team.
No kidding. This is one player I hope never wins a Stanley Cup. He just seems to be all about the money and nothing else.
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Gaudreau is a lot more marketable than Monahan. He is the player that non-Calgary fans talk about when they talk about the Flames. He would be more well known than RoR

?????????.....please explain.
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Ryan O'Reilly should send Jay Feaster a fruit basket.
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Gaudreau is a lot more marketable than Monahan. He is the player that non-Calgary fans talk about when they talk about the Flames. He would be more well known than RoR
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?????????.....please explain.
Gaudreau is a RFA next year the same as Monahan.

Gaudreau, appears to be in the upper echelon of young RFAs . Because of his size and reel of highlights Johnny Hockey is more famous than basically any young player outside of MacKinnon and McDavid.

I was expecting that the top limit for locking up the face of the Franchise young stars was set to 6M x6 years. Now it has been stretched to 7.5x7.

Buffalo gave up 2 1st and a high 2nd ( #16 overall Zaradov, a #12 Grigorenko and #35 Compher) ... similar to what and RFA offer sheet for a 7-9M offer sheet.

Gaudreau is better player , story, celebrity than RoR ... If RoR is worth all that Gaudreau will have to be worth an 8M or maybe 9M offer sheet...

would you trade Gaudreau even up for RoR?

If you owned an American NHL Franchise that wanted to sell tickets I think there is no question Gaudreau would be the prize you want... even more so than Monahan.

I think the price just went up.
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Good thing about Gaudreau is he said that he would play for the Flames for free.
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Just because Buffalo overpaid ROR doesn't mean we need to overpay Gaudreau. You usually don't look at bad outlier contracts as your comparable.
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Yeah doesn't make sense for signing bonuses to not be subject to escrow, or every player will be demanding them.

The only advantage to O'Reilly is he gets most of his salary paid in one lump sum, instead of spread out over the season.
I was told today it's a loophole that slipped threw the CBA cracks, the good thing is the NHL and NHLPA should both hate it and fix it pronto.

ROR is also taking a chance here as well, if his play goes in the tank he could be bought out for 660k per season that's left on his contract.
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