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Old 06-30-2015, 06:46 PM   #821
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At least that was a fair goal.

Truthfully the Germans should have lost to France. Johnston should have been sent off. Clearly last man back, eliminates a clear goal scoring opportunity, obvious red card. Obvious foul outside the box with the ref in good position. But that can't be used as an excuse. The Americans made the most of their chances. Germany did not.

I'm bummed out! Hopefully we can regroup and win on Saturday.

Also hope the Canadians don't sell their tickets to the final to the Americans and give this American team the Russian hockey team treatment. Boo them, cheer for whoever they are playing
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Old 06-30-2015, 06:46 PM   #822
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She was clearly last man back.
Yeah... that's what I said
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But my point is there's no rule that says a foul in the box is an auto red. That's the in-between. Biased reffing can't save Germany if they decide not to play defense anyway.
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Old 06-30-2015, 06:47 PM   #823
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Too bad. I don't watch much soccer but I was hoping Germany would win with how much diving the US is doing. And Sydney Leroux.
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Old 06-30-2015, 06:49 PM   #824
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But my point is there's no rule that says a foul in the box is an auto red. That's the in-between. Biased reffing can't save Germany if they decide not to play defense anyway.
I think what Girly was trying to say is there was no in between for that play
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Old 06-30-2015, 06:49 PM   #825
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But my point is there's no rule that says a foul in the box is an auto red. That's the in-between. Biased reffing can't save Germany if they decide not to play defense anyway.
I didnt say all fouls in the box are auto reds. THAT foul is.

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And Sydney Leroux.
Is hating Leroux actually a thing? Like would she get booed in Vancouver?
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Watching these games, there is a pretty big gap between the top 4 teams (USA, Germany, France, Japan) and the rest of the world in my opinion.
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I get the Americans being easy to hate. But you all have to admit the atmosphere at this game and it looks like the next is a whole lot more electric with the Americans playing. And all in all, it is hard to say that the Americans didn't outplay them.

I don't cheer for Americans in any other sports but with kids very involved in the US soccer community, I cheer for them in soccer when they are not playing Canada.
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Watching these games, there is a pretty big gap between the top 4 teams (USA, Germany, France, Japan) and the rest of the world in my opinion.
Based on the play in this tournament, it's USA, Germany, France on tier 1, Japan on tier 1A, and everybody else below that. Japan had real problems with Switzerland in their opener and were outplayed most of the match, they only one won because they converted a penalty they didn't even deserve.

These top 3 would stomp Switzerland.
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Is hating Leroux actually a thing? Like would she get booed in Vancouver?
You would have to ask someone who actively follows soccer but I would hope so. Anyone who tells her home country to be quiet while tugging on her jersey deserves to get booed.
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Japan are like the Spanish men. They thrash everyone 1-0.
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You would have to ask someone who actively follows soccer but I would hope so. Anyone who tells her home country to be quiet while tugging on her jersey deserves to get booed.
While that was a dumb move, I think the whole Leroux thing was blown out of proportion. So many higher profile players have switched teams, it's really not a new thing and given the disparity in support and opportunity for development, it's a smart move on the part of Leroux. The Americans today but 20,000 more people in a CANADIAN stadium than we did when when our team played there. Embarrassing.

All we can hope for is that more young talent doesn't realize the opportunity and depart for the US.
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You would have to ask someone who actively follows soccer but I would hope so. Anyone who tells her home country to be quiet while tugging on her jersey deserves to get booed.
It depends on how much of the crowd are American supporters, but any Canadian supporters will boo Leroux mercilessly. Wambach, Leroux and Solo are absolutely detested in Canadian soccer circles. Leroux particularly so because she grew up in Canada, played for Canada's youth team and then moved to the States, then consistently flaunts how she turned on her country. As an example:



Of course, I am biased because there is no team I hate more in soccer than the US women's national team.

Regarding tonight's game, the Americans absolutely deserved to win, but they also benefited from the non-red and then the foul outside the box being called as a penalty. As long as there isn't any talk about how the team persevered over harsh turf conditions to make the final I should be able to tune the hype out.
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Leroux had some pretty racist crap hurled at her through that game not the least of which was "###### traitor", her reaction was pretty mild all things considered.
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While that was a dumb move, I think the whole Leroux thing was blown out of proportion. So many higher profile players have switched teams, it's really not a new thing and given the disparity in support and opportunity for development, it's a smart move on the part of Leroux. The Americans today but 20,000 more people in a CANADIAN stadium than we did when when our team played there. Embarrassing.

All we can hope for is that more young talent doesn't realize the opportunity and depart for the US.
She's not the first athlete to play for another country when she's good enough to play for her home country but her attitude is what separates her from them for me. She acts like it was a tough decision which everyone knows it wasn't and then adds fuel to the fire by taunting Canadian fans. It's pretty easy to want someone like that to lose.
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Leroux had some pretty racist crap hurled at her through that game not the least of which was "###### traitor", her reaction was pretty mild all things considered.
Not at all, rather Leroux claimed that the celebration was in response to racist Tweets, and a chant of JUDAS from a game a year prior, not anything that was said during that particular game. I would argue that calling Leroux JUDAS is not racist nor something overly offensive based on her decision to play for the US.

The allegations of racism were merely based on a Tweet from Leroux implying racism and was never really clarified beyond that.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0..._hp_ref=sports

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/18...sm-allegations

http://www.canadiansoccernews.com/in...the-ussf-r3932
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Whether she heard it or not doesn't matter but I've been told directly by someone that was there some of the things that were said.

Whatever. Switching (if you could even call it that given her dad is American) has paid dividends for her and Canada wouldn't be competitive at this tournament even with her, so it's meaningless. She always said she wanted to play for USWNT. Then people got salty about it.
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Boo hoo, poor Sydney Leroux...

If racism is in play as has been alleged then that is completely offside, but the other chants are not. Canadians have been losing top talent to other countries for 20 years, and are tired of it.
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The NZ crew is doing tonight's semifinal.
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Japan now an even bigger favourite to win.

JPN 1.80 vs ENG 3.80 (ET/PK 3.00)

I called the US game right so I'll try this one too... Japan wins 1-0 in ET/PK. I think this game will be tighter than the betting line indicates.

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