[News] Semin & Boyes on waivers for buyout purposes

[Itse]

Originally Posted by 868904

All these buyouts right before Free Agent day should be a warning to GMs.

Very much this. So many of these big contracts turn out to be too much in the end.

Looking at Hamiltons and Brodies deal, I think some players might be seeing the warning signs too. Even if you don't get bought out, a contract too big might have the fans turning on you, or you'll end up on the trading block with nobody wanting you.

[Locke]

Revised thread title:

"Boyes Semin preparing to be jettisoned."

[Jacks]

Hard to believe that Semin has no trade value at 50% retained, that would be cheaper than a buyout.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Hard to believe that Semin has no trade value at 50% retained, that would be cheaper than a buyout.

Constantly injured, atrocious defensively and just generally apathetic all around all while cashing $7M paycheques.

[Jacks]

Right but at 50% retained it wouldn't be 7M paycheques.

[OzSome]

and some posters here wanted to trade for Semin last season..

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by OzSome

and some posters here wanted to trade for Semin last season..

To gain assets. I would have had no problem taking on Semin if the 'Canes gave us LA's 2016 1st. Overpayment? Sure, but that contract is atrocious.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by OzSome

and some posters here wanted to trade for Semin last season..

Completely possible that different team = different outcome.

Not saying it would have happened but if Semin bought into the Flames culture he'd be up there in the Rocket Richard argument. We know he's good even in an enigmatic state. A hard working Semin = goals galore.

[skudr248]

Sign him cheap, we can afford it. Doubt it happens though

[FlameZilla]

I don't have any interest in Semin or Boyes.

[Huntingwhale]

Spoiler!

[Har-Calgary]

If we can get Semin on a 1 year for cheap? Why not. If he's being apathetic then whatever he's gone, if he's trying then he's one of the most talented players in the world? Then why not?

[Brick]

I don't think that Semin meets the Flames standards.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Just for those interested in Boyes, here's my take.

He's become very, very slow. Footspeed and top speed. He's a big body but plays softer than
colborne. He still has a very good shot, but it now takes too long for him to get it off. Not a great passer. Boyes could be a serviceable 3rd liner for some team, but the Flames' focus on team speed makes him a poor fit, especially when we have so many bottom 6 forwards in our system. Honestly reminds me of Curtis Glencross.

It's the same reason that Florida is getting rid of him. Doesn't do enough to be a solid checker and doesn't have enough speed to contribute to the top lines anymore. Great guy, but the Panthers have better options nearly ready for full time duty.

[dammage79]

If Semin were to come to CGY, I would be very happy. Not may natural RW/RH Snipers out there these days.

[JiriHrdina]

You sure do like your Russians d79

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

You sure do like your Russians d79

Sure do! I sympathize with the ones that get treated like red headed step children. Even if they have no souls, they're still human!

[N-E-B]

I'd take Semin on a Setoguchi-esque deal but that's about it.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I would actually be on-board with signing Semin if the term was 2 years or less.

IIRC, Semin kept taking one year contracts - apparently at his request - during his tenure in Washington. Finally he ends up signing that huge deal in Carolina, and everything went downhill. Was it the big contract that made him complacent? Was he simply made into a scapegoat because of the contract and the lack of results? Was it due to Carolina just imploding all at once (not like Eric Staal - who was one of the best players in the league - was lighting it up either).

Semin I think would be a great 1 year 'show me' contract as anybody ever would. Guy still has very huge upside. As long as the risk is mitigated (term), then I think you sign him and see how he performs. Sure, he can go back to Russia, but with the shape of the KHL now, I would try and stay in the NHL as much as possible if I was Semin right now.

Not pushing for him - but definitely would be optimistic if the Flames ended up signing him as long as the term was low.

[Jayems]

1 year. 2.5/per. Coach of the year kicks his ass into shape.

Ferland-Bennett-Semin.

That's if we can't nab Kessel with 2m retained.