06-27-2015, 02:04 PM
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Grossmann + Pronger to Arizona for Gagner + Pick
Philadelphia Flyers @NHLFlyers 3m3 minutes ago BREAKING: #Flyers have acquired Sam Gagner & a pick from ARI for Nicklas Grossmann & the contract of Chris Pronger
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06-27-2015, 02:04 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Pronger cap hit $4.9M. Actual salary: $575,000. As @TGfireandice adds, could go into the Hall of Fame on Monday.
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06-27-2015, 02:06 PM
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Resident Videologist
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Grossman has 1 year left at $3.5M while Gagner has 1 year left at $3.2M.
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06-27-2015, 02:06 PM
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Dave Isaac @davegisaac
The Flyers just shed $5.2 million in one swoop.
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06-27-2015, 02:07 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Swedish Flame
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Pronger cap hit $4.9M. Actual salary: $575,000. As @TGfireandice adds, could go into the Hall of Fame on Monday.
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Arizona just got a potential HoF player for edmontons scraps! /s
But really this seems odd, does grossman really provide any value?
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06-27-2015, 02:12 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
Arizona just got a potential HoF player for edmontons scraps! /s
But really this seems odd, does grossman really provide any value?
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They need some NHL bodies to get them thru next season while theyre on their quest for Mathews.
Plus, as a pending UFA who will likely get a ton of ice time, Grossman could very well be flipped at the deadline as a rental.
I'd say in about 5 years time, the Yotes will have a very strong hockey team.
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06-27-2015, 02:14 PM
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Franchise Player
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Flyers should not be allowed to trade Pronger's contract.
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06-27-2015, 02:14 PM
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Franchise Player
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Location: Calgary
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Hehe.
Sam Gagner was drafted 6th overall.
The team that drafted Sam Gagner was just a year removed from a SCF.
The reason they went from the SCF to 6th overall was because of Chris Pronger.
Now Sam Gagner has been traded for Chris Pronger.
The Oilers lose.
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06-27-2015, 02:14 PM
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^ I still don't get it.
Grossman for Gagner is wash.
Why take on the contract of Pronger?
What is the benefit? Cap floor?
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06-27-2015, 02:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
They need some NHL bodies to get them thru next season while theyre on their quest for Mathews.
Plus, as a pending UFA who will likely get a ton of ice time, Grossman could very well be flipped at the deadline as a rental.
I'd say in about 5 years time, the Yotes will have a very strong hockey team.
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But wouldn't gagner fill that void? Let alone taking on extra cap hit with pronger? Unless they're trying to hit the cap minimum while actually spending as little money as possible, this is an odd trade.
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06-27-2015, 02:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
But wouldn't gagner fill that void? Let alone taking on extra cap hit with pronger? Unless they're trying to hit the cap minimum while actually spending as little money as possible, this is an odd trade.
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That's exactly what they're trying to do IMO
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06-27-2015, 02:17 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
^ I still don't get it.
Grossman for Gagner is wash.
Why take on the contract of Pronger?
What is the benefit? Cap floor?
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Cheap way to get to the cap floor. Pronger's cap hit is 4.9 apparently but only makes 550k. So they basically save 4.4 million off their budget.
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06-27-2015, 02:19 PM
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Should be illegal circumvention of cap
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06-27-2015, 02:23 PM
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Can't see the nhlpa being too happy about this. Probably wishing they would written provisions into the cba to avoid this sort of thing.
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06-27-2015, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Should be illegal circumvention of cap
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Agreed. There should be some sort of recapture penalty for trading a player who has no interest in playing again. Seems like a conflict of interest taking on a player who is now employed in the management of the league but still receives a paycheque under the NHLPA.
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06-27-2015, 02:25 PM
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There are such provisions in the current CBA. The loophole has already been closed, but existing contracts had to be grandfathered in.
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06-27-2015, 02:30 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Grossman has 1 year left at $3.5M while Gagner has 1 year left at $3.2M.
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The Flyers can now buyout Gagner, and because of his age, they'd only have to pay him 1/3 of his salary spread over two years (this would also save Tampa some money because they retained salary when they traded him to Arizona).
Arizona will probably not buyout Grossmann because they have serious needs on defence.
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06-27-2015, 02:31 PM
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And to take on this massive cap hit, they had to give up a pick...
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06-27-2015, 02:57 PM
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Having bettman announce this trade would have been awesome. Too bad it didn't happen Friday haha
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06-27-2015, 03:34 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Should be illegal circumvention of cap
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It's the same as the Nathan Horton trade, except everyone was saying it was a brilliant deal at the time.
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