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Old 06-27-2015, 11:04 AM   #161
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They say it almost more like shilling-tone than shilling-ton.

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Old 06-27-2015, 11:08 AM   #162
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Saw his picture and immediately became less worried about his attitude issues. Any Russian or non white player with a little cockiness gets labelled as having attitude issues.
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Europe seriously needs to get rid of on ice ads, unless they are small and in the neutral zone (like the NHL)
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Old 06-27-2015, 11:11 AM   #164
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Saw his picture and immediately became less worried about his attitude issues. Any Russian or non white player with a little cockiness gets labelled as having attitude issues.
A lot of times I think it stems from English not being a first language, or a non professional translator giving the wrong impression.

Maybe in Swedish he generally has a funny tone to his conversations, but it comes across as cocky in English? His own English isn't perfect (although very good), so perhaps he tries to exude confidence by being brash, who knows.

In my parents native language, direct translations to English are awful.

I really don't think that he has an attitude problem, but time will tell.
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Old 06-27-2015, 11:28 AM   #165
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If the NHL wants to compensate us for the lost ad revenue, we'll go straight ahead!
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Old 06-27-2015, 11:30 AM   #166
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Pre-draft article/interview in Swedish here.

"This is something that I have been looking forward to for a long time. I have been following the draft since I was little, but I have been trying to just play my game this season. You can't influence what happens that much"

Do you feel any pressure after all the talk about how important it is to go in the first round of the draft?
Everyone has been ranking me in different spots during the past year. It's not been rough, but sure there's been a lot of talk. I have viewed it as a new experience and have tried to put it aside in order to focus on hockey, play my game, and to have fun.

"Of course it would have been fun to go in the first round, but it's not the entire world if that doesn't happen. We'll see what goes down."

Do you have have favourite teams in the NHL that you would love to get drafted by?
"Sure, I have some teams that I have been watching growing up. I know Johnny Oduya, so Chicago is a team I follow. I also like Anahein, Kings, and Washington."

After all the interviews with NHL clubs in recent times, do you feel that there are some teams that are more interested than others?
"Yeah, I do. I was at the NHL Combine tow weeks ago and it was really interesting. You got insight into how the different teams think and what they like. Some were more open than others."

How far away from playing in the NHL are you?
"I would like to say two years. I want to play a full year in Sweden with AIK and then maybe a year in the AHL before I'm ready. That also depends on which club that drafts you and their plans."

"I need to get more experience and get stronger"
Doesn't seem like too brash or cocky of a kid to me. Thinks he needs another year in Sweden and AHL. Doesn't assume he's going 1st round.
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Old 06-27-2015, 11:56 AM   #167
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Kylington's family is a family of cyborgs:

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I can't believe he was there are 60. I know his stock fell ... but god damn. From high 1st to last pick in the second in like 6 months?
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:15 PM   #170
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It's encouraging that he say's he want's to play a season in Sweden and even a season in the AHL to try and prepare for the NHL. Sounds reasonable and realistic. Hopefully he really puts in the work and can make the team in a few years. If this kid can pan out it will be so huge for the organization.
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:16 PM   #171
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I read his mum is Eritrean, but he was born in Sweden. Pretty cool to have a player of Eritrean descent in the NHL if you ask me.

Besides Iggy, I really can't think of too many players whose parent(s) are directly from Africa.
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:19 PM   #172
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Elite skating can make up for a lot of weaknesses - though as a blueliner poor hockey sense can be a real problem.
None the less, this is a great pick. Huge upside, and if it doesn't work out - you've waste a 60th overall, which stands a relatively small chance of turning into something anyways.
At minimum he will be an intriguing and exciting prospect to keep an eye on for a few years.
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:19 PM   #173
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I asked after we drafted Bennett, last year, (already assuming this guy would be a Flame) is there going to be a Streetfight between Bennett and Kylington for the Nickname KILLER?
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:26 PM   #174
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I asked after we drafted Bennett, last year, (already assuming this guy would be a Flame) is there going to be a Streetfight between Bennett and Kylington for the Nickname KILLER?
"And Shiller with a long pass to Killer....". I can hardly wait.
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:26 PM   #175
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His slide is due to

1) Injury
2) Struggling in a higher men's league (SHL, 3rd best league in the world)
3) Trying to do too much himself and not making the simple play = turnovers.

Now with (3) you might think "Oh noes Justin Schultz" but that's part of development.
At 60, who cares!?
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:27 PM   #176
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Myself being Swedish and have lived abroad for 10+ years my experience is that Swedish sarcasm and irony does not translate well.

Yes, according to the book we are introvert, sexually liberal hermites with heavy drinking habits, but we're a very sarcastic people which will come across as arrogant if you can't handle the language. In Swedish his interviews come off a lot more tongue in cheek and "make fun of myself swagger".

For example, Sundin and Forsberg are hilarious (met and had ber with both) but probably came off as boring/arrogant to many canadians. Its difficult to translate tone into a second language.

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Old 06-27-2015, 02:56 PM   #178
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Here's an article that's titled "Kylington has steal written all over him" and this was before the draft where the writer thought he'd go "somewhere in the 20s".

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Why such a dramatic drop? There have been a few reasons listed among most critiques, but the main theme seems to be defensive ability. While no one will question Kylington’s proficiency at joining the attack and producing points, more than one scout has written about him being a little too offense-oriented, causing him to regularly neglect his defensive duties. As much as teams want a player than can kickstart the offense from the back end, many are understandably hesitant about a player that could be a major defensive liability, especially when such a player lacks the big size that teams always covet.
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Another, and slightly more intriguing reason, is because of injury. While many top prospects were out showcasing their talents over the course of the season, Kylington suffered an injury while playing for Sweden in an exhibition game prior to the 2015 World Juniors. While many prospects, such as Lawson Crouse, Timo Meier and Mikko Rantanen, boosted their draft stocks while playing in the prestigious event, Kylington was stuck watching from the sidelines. It could also be reasonably assumed that Kylington’s level of play over in Sweden took a hit in the time immediately after as he recovered from the injury, which might have made him look less impressive in the eyes of scouts.
http://thehockeywriters.com/2015-nhl...-all-over-him/

Someone in another thread mentioned it was a back injury but I haven't found any confirmation. If he has a full recovery and works on his weaknesses, he'll be a great pick at 60. As has been said, you can't teach talent but you can teach the defensive side.
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Old 06-27-2015, 03:08 PM   #179
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Treliving's interview on the Fan he made it sound as though it was certain he was to go in pick 61 or 62. After he moved up and drafted him at 60 a couple GMs called and "yelled some profanities" at him. LOL.

This has steal written all over it. He probably fell way too far.
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After he moved up and drafted him at 60 a couple GMs called and "yelled some profanities" at him.
That's probably the best possible proof that you took the player at exactly the right time.
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