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View Poll Results: How do you feel about the Hamilton trade?
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Complete Steal!
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Great trade but not sure if it is a homerun.
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Cautiously optimistic that Flames won the trade.
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Even trade for both teams
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Boston will eventually win this trade.
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Rather have the picks.
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06-26-2015, 11:41 AM
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#81
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Originally Posted by Jacks
You wouldn't trade Gaudreau for McJesus?
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Originally Posted by polak
Nope. Not until he proves something in the NHL.
Lets see how he plays against grown ups.
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I'm not knocking Gaudreau at all because I think he is a great young player, but wow just wow.
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06-26-2015, 11:55 AM
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#82
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OILFAN #81
I'm not knocking Gaudreau at all because I think he is a great young player, but wow just wow.
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Please don't think all fans believe this. McDavid will be better than Gaudreau. I think everyone outside the 403 area code believes this to be true. Probably Johnny himself
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06-26-2015, 11:57 AM
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#83
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Please don't think all fans believe this. McDavid will be better than Gaudreau. I think everyone outside the 403 area code believes this to be true. Probably Johnny himself
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I think Polak, at least for the most part, posts a lot of things on this board that 99.9% of the population wouldn't agree with.
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06-26-2015, 12:10 PM
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#84
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Just trying to wrap my head around a Gaudreau + Monahan for McDavid deal...
Gaudreau and Monahan are already combining for 125pts+, are we assuming McDavid will top 125pts in the NHL? That's assuming Gaudreau and Monahan have hit their ceilings, of course. One or the other for McDavid, sure. But both? Is McDavid really worth two 60-65-point top-line players who are 20/22 years old? I don't know about that...not even Crosby is posting 125pts.
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06-26-2015, 12:12 PM
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#85
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: AB
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They should try and get pennies on the dollar for chara instead of moving Hamilton imo. (Unless he has a ntc as I didn't look)
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06-26-2015, 12:12 PM
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#86
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Hamilton is one of the few players I am okay with the Flames trading the 15th pick for. No Gaudreau, Monahan, Bennett, or Brodie though
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06-26-2015, 12:13 PM
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#87
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Hamilton is one of the few players I am okay with the Flames trading the 15th pick for. No Gaudreau, Monahan, Bennett, or Brodie though
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it would take 2 x 15th overall picks for Hamilton IMO.
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06-26-2015, 12:15 PM
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#88
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Hamilton is no Pronger, lets not be crazy. He's an awesome young d-man, no doubt. But he isn't even half as physically dominant a force as Pronger was.
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06-26-2015, 12:16 PM
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#89
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by jg13
it would take 2 x 15th overall picks for Hamilton IMO.
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Yeah I know we add to 15 but rather not include another 1st unless it is heavily protected.
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06-26-2015, 12:16 PM
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#90
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Back to Hamilton, it is the ideal defenseman the any team basically wants to draft, and develop, and have as part of the core of your team, and you can get that today without the 3-4 year wait (and hope that the guy you draft will stay on the development path)
83 points in 178 NHL games....6'5 215. Outside of the money, have to wonder if there is a back story as to why he may be available. Trade talks stalled porbably because he has a (unofficial list) and the Bruins are asking the moon....should be interesting.
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06-26-2015, 12:19 PM
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#91
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Just trying to wrap my head around a Gaudreau + Monahan for McDavid deal...
Gaudreau and Monahan are already combining for 125pts+, are we assuming McDavid will top 125pts in the NHL?
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If Gaudreau is assisting a Monahan goal, or Monahan assisting a Gaudreau goal, they might be "combining" for 2 points but they're only producing one goal...
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06-26-2015, 12:23 PM
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#92
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I know it's unpopular but Bennett for Hamilton would be fair
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06-26-2015, 12:23 PM
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#93
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Just trying to wrap my head around a Gaudreau + Monahan for McDavid deal...
Gaudreau and Monahan are already combining for 125pts+, are we assuming McDavid will top 125pts in the NHL? That's assuming Gaudreau and Monahan have hit their ceilings, of course. One or the other for McDavid, sure. But both? Is McDavid really worth two 60-65-point top-line players who are 20/22 years old? I don't know about that...not even Crosby is posting 125pts.
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But Crosby and say Blake Comeau come in at 115 pts... Crosby and Hornquist 135 pts missing 22 games.
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06-26-2015, 12:28 PM
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#94
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by browna
Back to Hamilton, it is the ideal defenseman the any team basically wants to draft, and develop, and have as part of the core of your team, and you can get that today without the 3-4 year wait (and hope that the guy you draft will stay on the development path)
83 points in 178 NHL games....6'5 215. Outside of the money, have to wonder if there is a back story as to why he may be available. Trade talks stalled porbably because he has a (unofficial list) and the Bruins are asking the moon....should be interesting.
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Is Hamilton as good as Tyler Myers?
The Jets had to give Kane and Bogosian to get him but got bad basically 3 1st round picks as well and A top-6 play-off rental as well.
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06-26-2015, 12:29 PM
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#95
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by squirtle
I know it's unpopular but Bennett for Hamilton would be fair
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Maybe, if you ignore age, contract status and Hamilton's soon to be massive salary.
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06-26-2015, 12:29 PM
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#96
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
If Gaudreau is assisting a Monahan goal, or Monahan assisting a Gaudreau goal, they might be "combining" for 2 points but they're only producing one goal...
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Yeah, but McDavid is only one player. One less player you have to shutdown, one less player available if one gets injured, etc. Plus they combined for 55 goals.
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06-26-2015, 12:36 PM
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#97
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Just trying to wrap my head around a Gaudreau + Monahan for McDavid deal...
Gaudreau and Monahan are already combining for 125pts+, are we assuming McDavid will top 125pts in the NHL? That's assuming Gaudreau and Monahan have hit their ceilings, of course. One or the other for McDavid, sure. But both? Is McDavid really worth two 60-65-point top-line players who are 20/22 years old? I don't know about that...not even Crosby is posting 125pts.
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Doesn't really work that way. A better stat, IMO, is total number of team goals McDavid would contribute to vs. Monahan/Gaudreau. A lof of Monahan/Gaudreau points overlap each other.
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06-26-2015, 12:50 PM
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#98
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#1 Goaltender
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In the last week I've learned polak wouldn't trade Gaudreau for McDavid and doesn't think the Flames would sell out McMahon stadium on a weekday at 2pm if the Stanley Cup ceremony was there. Not sure if he's a troll or not.
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06-26-2015, 12:53 PM
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#99
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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James Mirtle @mirtle
Sounds like Dougie Hamilton talk heating up. Boston very busy. Bruins asking for high-ish first-round pick as part of package.
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06-26-2015, 12:56 PM
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#100
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Lifetime Suspension
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Im totally fine not picking in the first round if we somehow parlay 15th + ____ into Hamilton. Depending on that +..
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