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Old 06-24-2015, 09:17 PM   #2381
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I took that into consideration but given how obvious it is that they are connected why would HG15 refuse to cast a vote for Timbo if that was the case?
I dunno.

But why make such an obvious connection if they are both Host?
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:18 PM   #2382
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I don't buy both as scum. With 3 scum you wouldn't buddy your scum. You don't need the space. Maybe late in the game at the start I think they'd be pretty independant
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:20 PM   #2383
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I dunno.

But why make such an obvious connection if they are both Host?
I don't think they intended to. They even would post the odd suspicion on each other but nothing ever serious. I think they thought they were careful enough and just were not. Connection aside we have to get the right lynch this time, we are running out of passengers and that damn spore is god knows where. I think Timbo is still our best bet.
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:22 PM   #2384
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I don't buy both as scum. With 3 scum you wouldn't buddy your scum. You don't need the space. Maybe late in the game at the start I think they'd be pretty independant
Ok, so what is your theory on why they post like they are connected at the hip?
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:22 PM   #2385
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I took that into consideration but given how obvious it is that they are connected why would HG15 refuse to cast a vote for Timbo if that was the case? If HG was town and he saw what I have pointed out he would be trying to get rid of Timbo. Instead he just says it is townie following smart townie. I am not buying it.
Because I don't trust you or your judgement on top of the fact that you are trying to force me into it.

Other than trying to link Timbo to me you haven't tried to prove he is a host.
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:29 PM   #2386
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Because I don't trust you or your judgement on top of the fact that you are trying to force me into it.

Other than trying to link Timbo to me you haven't tried to prove he is a host.
What?? I had post after post earlier in the game and just now, lol. Again, you are not posting the truth. Ok, you don't trust my judgement. You don't obviously trust Oling's either then I guess.
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:31 PM   #2387
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I don't buy both as scum. With 3 scum you wouldn't buddy your scum. You don't need the space. Maybe late in the game at the start I think they'd be pretty independant
I agree.

However, what about the scenario where Timbo was Host latching onto Hockeyguy15 originally. But SebC sent the spore to Hockeyguy15 independently?

Timbo did go from trusting Hockeyguy15 with his life, to getting in a weird spat over the quick topic thing.

I just don't see how an objective Hockeyguy15 can look at Timbo's post today and not get huge red flags all over the place. Maybe he still hasn't had time to go over them with his conversation of Dissentowner.
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:32 PM   #2388
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What?? I had post after post earlier in the game and just now, lol. Again, you are not posting the truth. Ok, you don't trust my judgement. You don't obviously trust Oling's either then I guess.
I know the post you are talking about, you gave me crap for not commenting on your argument against him.
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:33 PM   #2389
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I know the post you are talking about, you gave me crap for not commenting on your argument against him.
Well if you knew the post I was talking about why would you say I never tried to prove he was a host?
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:36 PM   #2390
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I agree.

However, what about the scenario where Timbo was Host latching onto Hockeyguy15 originally. But SebC sent the spore to Hockeyguy15 independently?

Timbo did go from trusting Hockeyguy15 with his life, to getting in a weird spat over the quick topic thing.

I just don't see how an objective Hockeyguy15 can look at Timbo's post today and not get huge red flags all over the place. Maybe he still hasn't had time to go over them with his conversation of Dissentowner.
I have not, I will go back and read it in the morning. I don't have he mental capacity tonight. I assume you mean game day and not just today?
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:36 PM   #2391
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Well if you knew the post I was talking about why would you say I never tried to prove he was a host?
Because I was talking about now, not then.
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:37 PM   #2392
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SebC disappeared for 3 full real life days on the day that he probably got turned (well night before).

Timbo has seemed to go off the deep end, his erratic behaviour is far from his norm.

If we treat this as almost a cliche horror story, a person disappearing for an extended amount of time and ends up being replaced with an alien doppelganger is a common trope. As is a normal person who becomes erratic after being mind controlled or whatever. Perhaps the Turned are subject to posting conditions? Is it still a semi-open game if that isn't mentioned?
I kind of feel like this is the case. Timbo didn't go off on me when I accused him earlier in Day 2. It's weird he went on a rampage today.
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:38 PM   #2393
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I have not, I will go back and read it in the morning. I don't have he mental capacity tonight. I assume you mean game day and not just today?
Yeah, I would say full game day. Maybe even his post right before where he lets us know he isn't going to move onto Devo22 at 9:58.
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:59 PM   #2394
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Ok, so what is your theory on why they post like they are connected at the hip?
Coincidence or one is the leader and one is the follower. The follower being scum. In your reread is one typically leading and other following or vice versa.
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I agree.

However, what about the scenario where Timbo was Host latching onto Hockeyguy15 originally. But SebC sent the spore to Hockeyguy15 independently?

Timbo did go from trusting Hockeyguy15 with his life, to getting in a weird spat over the quick topic thing.

I just don't see how an objective Hockeyguy15 can look at Timbo's post today and not get huge red flags all over the place. Maybe he still hasn't had time to go over them with his conversation of Dissentowner.
I find HG much more suspicious than Timbo. His girly play day two makes sense for scum to get a early edge with limited risk as it's easy to say vote for the spore. People laid out the case day 1 so HG jumping on girly was a very safe place to hide.
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Old 06-24-2015, 10:09 PM   #2396
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I kind of feel like this is the case. Timbo didn't go off on me when I accused him earlier in Day 2. It's weird he went on a rampage today.
That doesn't fit with your Timbo following HG as he wouldn't have been converted until day 5.

Do you think this Timbo rage is real or fabricated?
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Coincidence or one is the leader and one is the follower. The follower being scum. In your reread is one typically leading and other following or vice versa.
I have found HG is usually leading but occasionally it is vice versa. They are always on the same page though although Timbo staged a little spat with HG recently but nothing came of it really.
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I have found HG is usually leading but occasionally it is vice versa. They are always on the same page though although Timbo staged a little spat with HG recently but nothing came of it really.
Really, my perception is the oppisite. I'll have to go back and check put part of my town case on Timbo is he's been quietly leading with a list very different from mind. HG is louder definately.
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That doesn't fit with your Timbo following HG as he wouldn't have been converted until day 5.

Do you think this Timbo rage is real or fabricated?
I keep going back and forth with Timbo. He's jumped up on both my scum and turned list so I'm more than happy to vote for him.

His rage has to be fabricated or a condition of the turned though. This all started, ostensibly, with the discussion of the Government Agent that wasn't that big of deal. He knew I couldn't force the Government Agent to reveal.

Either he's playing around to get back at me for last game or he's purposely trying to get lynched. Maybe one of the other 'targets' is scum with the spore or captain even? It would make sense why he would not want them to be lynched.
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I keep going back and forth with Timbo. He's jumped up on both my scum and turned list so I'm more than happy to vote for him.

His rage has to be fabricated or a condition of the turned though. This all started, ostensibly, with the discussion of the Government Agent that wasn't that big of deal. He knew I couldn't force the Government Agent to reveal.

Either he's playing around to get back at me for last game or he's purposely trying to get lynched. Maybe one of the other 'targets' is scum with the spore or captain even? It would make sense why he would not want them to be lynched.
He blew up in the last few games as town though over nothing. In smash very similar to this attack on you when I antagonized him and in barro he got himself killed day 1. He was more controlled when he went down in NHL.
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