NHL Free Agent Frenzy July 1st.

[DomeFoam]

Is Dubnyk a starting goalie? Does a red hot last half of the season justify 5m for 5 years? Guy deserves a bridge contract and nothing more

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

Is Dubnyk a starting goalie? Does a red hot last half of the season justify 5m for 5 years? Guy deserves a bridge contract and nothing more

If he's really the red hot goalie from last year then he deserves about $8 million a year for the forseeable future.

He probably couldn't maintain those gaudy numbers consistently going forward though, but if he's a solid starting goalie capable of roughly .920 save percentage, then he's easily worth $5 million IMO.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

Is Dubnyk a starting goalie? Does a red hot last half of the season justify 5m for 5 years? Guy deserves a bridge contract and nothing more

He was excellent in Phoenix too.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

He was excellent in Phoenix too.

Except for his rookie season and his last season in Edmonton, he was pretty decent there too......and that was in fricken Edmonton.

[neo45]

Dubnyk's great season also can't be pinned on systems, as he badly outplayed Mike Smith in Phoenix and then clearly outperformed all of Minnesota's goalies after

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

Is Dubnyk a starting goalie? Does a red hot last half of the season justify 5m for 5 years? Guy deserves a bridge contract and nothing more

Career stats, including his nightmare 2013-14 season:

GAA - 2.69
SV% - .914
231 games
213 starts @ .535 QS%

these are solid numbers. Only 39 of those games were on a good defensive team (Minnesota).

[Muta]

Would love to see Joel Ward and Devan Dubnyk here.

[Wastedyouth]

Belleksey is the new Ville Leino

[Brewmaster]

Any guesses what will happen with Glencross?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Brewmaster

Any guesses what will happen with Glencross?

Oilers will overpay for him.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Brewmaster

Any guesses what will happen with Glencross?

Ends up in Arizona with Moss. Jokinen ends up their too.

Reunite the OMG line!

[Caged Great]

I'd consider giving Dubnyk a 5X5 deal. That's not overly expensive and should be movable down the road if necessary. It would largely depend on whether you can move Hiller out, and really that shouldn't be a big deal if you're wanting him gone.

Dubnyk would be a legit #1 and the Flames defense is in the same ballpark as the Wild (not as good but close), rather than the gong show up north. He should have similar coverage and should be able to put up decent #'s in Calgary. He is the right age. Plus he would take the pressure off of Gillies and McDonald to rush them up the ladder.

[Bourque's Twin]

I think Dubnyk is a possibility. There aren't too many teams in the league that have both 1) A need for an uncontested #1 goalie; and 2) CAP space to sign one.

[Ozy_Flame]

Dubnyk is also supposedly a Flames fan. And I hope part of him wants to stick it to the Oilers organization that misused him and derailed his development. Would be awesome to see him start for us against the first game against the Oilers next season and stonewall the #### out of Team McJesus and company.

[Ashasx]

I think 5 years is a pretty significant risk for Dubnyk.

It's not like the Flames have painted themselves in a corner and need to make a big splash. A 5 year deal just seems really unnecessary.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I think 5 years is a pretty significant risk for Dubnyk.

It's not like the Flames have painted themselves in a corner and need to make a big splash. A 5 year deal just seems really unnecessary.

If it was ideal, the Wild would have signed him a long time ago.

the Flames are one of the few teams that can afford him. Buffalo's probably the only other team that could take that on, but I don't think Dubnyk would want to go to another rebuilding team.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

If it was ideal, the Wild would have signed him a long time ago.

the Flames are one of the few teams that can afford him. Buffalo's probably the only other team that could take that on, but I don't think Dubnyk would want to go to another rebuilding team.

If his options are limited, then he shouldn't command a 5 year, $25 million contract.

Just seems too obvious of a mistake.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

If his options are limited, then he shouldn't command a 5 year, $25 million contract.

Just seems to obvious of a mistake.

The dollars aren't the problem, it's the years. Hiller commanded 4 on a 2 year deal, but that's different as he was trying to re-establish his value and get a long term deal. Ideally, Dubnyk would be a 3 X 5 contract. The two added years could be either a bargain or a disaster.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I think 5 years is a pretty significant risk for Dubnyk.

It's not like the Flames have painted themselves in a corner and need to make a big splash. A 5 year deal just seems really unnecessary.

I agree we shouldn't be trading assets for a goalie but at the same time I think you underestimate how hard it can be to get a goalie once you do need one.

Ortio, Gillies, and Macdonald have potential but none are a sure thing to be an NHL calibre starter.

Ask Philly, St.Louis, Washington, Ottawa (stacked 2000 teams), etc if they regret not making a bigger move for a proven goalie that would have truly helped them be a contender in the past.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I think 5 years is a pretty significant risk for Dubnyk.

It's not like the Flames have painted themselves in a corner and need to make a big splash. A 5 year deal just seems really unnecessary.

Is it though? It would bring Dubnyk to age 33, pretty much the swing zone of a goaltender's prime years, and at $5m AAV, that is on the low end for salary for any of the current top 10-15 goalies, which I think is a pretty fair assessment of where Dubnyk is at right now. Of course there would be some risk, there is risk with any player. Will he regress? Maybe, probably. Will he regress to his 13/14 Levels? I really doubt it. Will he provide Ramo/Hiller type goaltending at the very least? I'd bet on it. There is also the chance he is a lights out phenomenon like this year, he has proven capable of that though I would not expect it.

My point is that he is as more likely to stabilize our goaltending for the next half-decade than any of Hiller, Ramo, Lehner, Talbot, Ortio, Gillies or McDonald.... He's more proven than any of those options and he's free (trade asset wise). Not that I don't believe in our younger options, I just don't think any of them will be ready to be starter for 2-3 years, at least. We need someone to bridge that gap, as the worst thing we could do would be to rush a young goalie.

Even if we re-sign Ortio to be a $1.5m backup in a year's time, that's only $6.5m tied up in goaltending, well within the range contenders spend on the position. Not sure how that's "painting us into a corner" unless you really doubt Dubnyk's ability to play to his career averages over the next five years. I see no reason to believe he won't perform AT LEAST to that level, and that is going to cost something in UFA. At minimum, $5m AAV for a player of this caliber has to be expected, and with some term. It's not as big a risk as some think. You have to pay someone to be your goalie after all, and Devan is as good, or better, than any other option available at moment.

Sign Dubnyk, stick it to the Oilers, develop our young goalies with patience... what's not to like? Someone's got to be the starter for the short-medium term, and I'd rather him than Hiller or Ramo personally.