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Old 06-18-2015, 02:27 PM   #381
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At this stage, I don't know what I would do for a remake of IX. I miss that game beyond all hell and have once again lost my copy after moving. It will turn up, I'll beat it, put it away and lose it when I move again.
I want an HD remaster of XII. It's the only one I haven't played.
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I want an HD remaster of XII. It's the only one I haven't played.
Was is XI or XII thats was the online only flop?
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Wait.

They're doing a FFVII HD Re-master?

I hadn't heard this.

I would literally pay a thousand dollars for it.

I'm glad I won't have to, but I would.
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Wait.

They're doing a FFVII HD Re-master?

I hadn't heard this.

I would literally pay a thousand dollars for it.

I'm glad I won't have to, but I would.
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^ Not a remaster, but a remake. How much will change from the original to the new is going to result in more arguments than the question of why VI is the best game in the series and why the fans of VII are wrong.

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Was is XI or XII thats was the online only flop?
XI is an onlne only MMO that was quite successful.

XII was a PS2 single player game in the main series.

The first iteration of XIV was the "online only flop", and it was terrible. Square basically rebuilt the game from the ground up, and the 2.0 release of it has been a massive success.
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Wait.

They're doing a FFVII HD Re-master?

I hadn't heard this.

I would literally pay a thousand dollars for it.

I'm glad I won't have to, but I would.
Not even just a remaster. A FRIGGEN REMAKE!!!!
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Yeah basically I don't care what they charge. If I didn't have a PS4 I would buy one just for this. I've been saying for years that I would pay basically any amount of money for that. I have similar feelings about FF6.

This meme has seriously never been more appropriate.

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To spin things the other way in this thread, I am a huge Final Fantasy fan and have played every game in the main series and a lot of the spin offs too. FFVII remake is my most anticipated game, along with FFXV. And Uncharted 4

But yeah, FFXII HD remaster would be welcome. I tried playing it on my PS2 a couple years back and it's tough to get past the SD visuals. Even worse blown up on a big HDTV. Glad they did X first though.
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To spin things the other way in this thread, I am a huge Final Fantasy fan and have played every game in the main series and a lot of the spin offs too. FFVII remake is my most anticipated game, along with FFXV. And Uncharted 4

But yeah, FFXII HD remaster would be welcome. I tried playing it on my PS2 a couple years back and it's tough to get past the SD visuals. Even worse blown up on a big HDTV. Glad they did X first though.
The PC port they made was decent. I've only played it on a laptop though so not too sure how it would translate to a big screen.
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There are a couple of issues facing a XII re-make. First, it's one of the more recent ones, so it's not utterly outdated in terms of the visuals. They did get to a X re-master, but that's arguably the most popular game in the series other than VII and maybe VI.

Second, XII is pretty underrated and not much-loved. Personally, I liked the game quite a bit, but a lot of people didn't think much of the semi-real-time battle system or the characters. It was also one of the more political-intrigue-laden FF's, which I was a fan of but some people thought made it plodding. My problem plot wise was more that this was all really well set up, but then they never really took advantage of the world they'd created. There was a ton of unrealized story potential there that I suspect ended up being left on the cutting room floor so that the game didn't take eons to complete. Also, it had one of the least memorable villains in the series, which really lowered the stakes for the finale.

Of games I'd like them to re-make after VII's done, my list goes 1. Chrono Trigger, 2. FF6, 3. FFIX. I'd play VIII, IV, V, or XII but they don't make my top three.
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Looks like they will put the PC Port of FFVII to PS4 and hinted at redoing the graphics and making the game the same. This remake they have said they will be changing things or else there's no point of doing a remake. Brings up so many questions:

1-Will the Material system be back?
2-KOTR?
3-Black Materia?
4-Chocobo Breeding?
5-What will happen to the golden nugget and costa del sol?
6-What will the world map look like?
7-Will emerald and Ruby weapons be hidden? Will there be more secret weapons?
8-Aeris, will she die? Will she be in the remake?

Just off the top of my head a few. There are hundreds of unknowns and can't wait to see what happens.
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Why would they change any of those things?
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The PC port they made was decent. I've only played it on a laptop though so not too sure how it would translate to a big screen.
Final Fantasy XII was only released on PS2.
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Old 06-19-2015, 12:28 AM   #394
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Can someone explain to me the appeal of this final fantasy game? I've never played a jprg and just don't seem to understand the hype.

I've been gaming since the Nintendo 64 days and my tastes these days are mostly story driven games such a fallout, uncharted, and the last of us.

So can someone in laymen terms please describe this final fantasy to me?
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Can someone explain to me the appeal of this final fantasy game? I've never played a jprg and just don't seem to understand the hype.

I've been gaming since the Nintendo 64 days and my tastes these days are mostly story driven games such a fallout, uncharted, and the last of us.

So can someone in laymen terms please describe this final fantasy to me?
Lengthy, story-based games with solid battle systems and memorable events/characters. Each game is unique in it's setting/story/characters so you don't need any franchise knowledge to just jump into one, yet certain thematic elements and designs have carried over through the whole series. Also some of the best music/soundtracks in gaming.

As far as anime style story telling and characters go, it's the best there is among video games (in my opinion, and many others). Final Fantasy VII was by far the most popular game in the series -- even my friend who is not a series fan is excited about the remake, it's the only one he played.

Compared to something like Fallout, there's a lot less choice, both in the narrative and in the character progression. It's quite directed and driven and there's a lot of cutscenes -- the amount of exploration you can do really depends on the game. Honestly, every game is so different it's hard to pinpoint any one thing that makes the series popular -- and that's probably what makes it so popular! Everyone has a favorite.
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Moore's Law needs to hurry up. Maybe need a bit more time to get the tech up to what they're showing for Hololens. Hopefully it's just something you can throw more processing at and get it done.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/18/880...-field-of-view

http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/17/878...minecraft-demo

This field of view issue is brought up in nearly every hands-on with the hardware, and we were able to check out the hardware at E3.

"The virtual screen was about the size of a deck of cards if you held it in front of your eyes with your arm half-extended," our own Brian Crecente wrote. "It sounds small, and in some cases, including once you first put it on, it looks small. But once you get into the experience of playing a game with it, the size issue seems to fade away."

Crecente didn't have a big problem with the field of view, but almost every other write-up of the technology also brought up the tiny field of view.
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Final Fantasy 7 is/was amazing, its understandable that everyone is freaking out. I don't even care about Final Fantasy in general but I loved that game on PS1. Unfortunately (or fortunately) I didn't ever complete it, so the remake is welcome news to play it again. Hopefully it has the charm of the original. The game also has the best score/soundtrack in any game I've ever played, hopefully the same music all makes it over to the new one.
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Second, XII is pretty underrated and not much-loved. Personally, I liked the game quite a bit, but a lot of people didn't think much of the semi-real-time battle system or the characters. It was also one of the more political-intrigue-laden FF's, which I was a fan of but some people thought made it plodding. My problem plot wise was more that this was all really well set up, but then they never really took advantage of the world they'd created. There was a ton of unrealized story potential there that I suspect ended up being left on the cutting room floor so that the game didn't take eons to complete. Also, it had one of the least memorable villains in the series, which really lowered the stakes for the finale.

Of games I'd like them to re-make after VII's done, my list goes 1. Chrono Trigger, 2. FF6, 3. FFIX. I'd play VIII, IV, V, or XII but they don't make my top three.
I liked the gambit system in FFXII as being a unique take on the usual Final Fantasy battle systems of the past. I found it to be tough to get into though, as you really had to pay attention to where you were spending your points for skills. I really didn't like having to set what weapons and armor you could wear, as I usually regretted my choices later. Also, gil was really hard to come by early on and that made things unnecessarily difficult for beginners.

FFXII still looks great on the PS2 honestly. Hook it up with component cables on a CRT TV and it looks amazing.

Why would you want Chrono Trigger to be remade? It's not suffering from being a late SNES sprite based RPG today. It all holds up really well. To me, the DS version is the definitive version of Chrono Trigger that everyone should play, and needs nothing further. That being said, I'm fine with seeing FFV and FFVI remade like the other older ones have, which is a bit weird considering my stance on Chrono Trigger.

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Final Fantasy 7 is/was amazing, its understandable that everyone is freaking out. I don't even care about Final Fantasy in general but I loved that game on PS1. Unfortunately (or fortunately) I didn't ever complete it, so the remake is welcome news to play it again. Hopefully it has the charm of the original. The game also has the best score/soundtrack in any game I've ever played, hopefully the same music all makes it over to the new one.
I just finished FFVII a few weeks ago, and I couldn't help but compare the game constantly to FFIX, which I feel was better in every way. VII definitely has a better conclusion than IX, but that's about it for me.

There's definitely some charming moments to the game, which I'm certain they'll keep in the remake for comedy relief...but I'm not sure I was supposed to be laughing out loud whenever Sephiroth/Goku was doing his best Superman impression.
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I liked the gambit system in FFXII as being a unique take on the usual Final Fantasy battle systems of the past. I found it to be tough to get into though, as you really had to pay attention to where you were spending your points for skills. I really didn't like having to set what weapons and armor you could wear, as I usually regretted my choices later. Also, gil was really hard to come by early on and that made things unnecessarily difficult for beginners.

FFXII still looks great on the PS2 honestly. Hook it up with component cables on a CRT TV and it looks amazing.
Yeah I didn't mind it once I got used to it, but I recall a lot of whining and moaning at the time.

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Why would you want Chrono Trigger to be remade? It's not suffering from being a late SNES sprite based RPG today. It all holds up really well. To me, the DS version is the definitive version of Chrono Trigger that everyone should play, and needs nothing further. That being said, I'm fine with seeing FFV and FFVI remade like the other older ones have, which is a bit weird considering my stance on Chrono Trigger.
I want it to be re-made so I can play the same game but with the visual and audio trimmings possible by current generation machines. I'm not saying it isn't still a great game as it is. But I'd still like to see an updated graphics version.

The other point is that the Chrono games left a number of unexplained and frankly inexplicable story wrinkles that could be retconned (not overhauled, just tweaked for consistency and comprehensibility) if you were to re-make them... I'm actually fine leaving them in their imperfect form but someone could certainly make that argument.

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The ending was somewhat disappointing, true, though obviously a huge rebound from the unmitigated stupid that VIII devolved into. You could say the party characters were more interesting in VII, on balance; I mean I just don't care at all amount Amarant or Quina, Garnet is a bit two-dimensional for a love interest, and Steiner and Eiko were frequently annoying. Sephiroth is a better villain than Kuja (honestly, Garland's a much more interesting character). The world feels more expansive and unfolds better throughout disc 1 of FF7 than it does throughout IX (the pacing in IX is a bit jerky sometimes). Both have some strong supporting characters.

But I don't begrudge you that opinion; many people think IX is the best PSX title in the series.
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