2014/2015 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

i think we should make a deal with the yotes. 15 OA + Poirier + Wotherspoon to the yotes for OEL.

Their future number 1 D for a top 9 winger, depth D and a 15 OA? No way they do that

[Roof-Daddy]

OEL would carry a steep price, and probably would be even steeper to acquire him from within the same division.

[Incogneto]

I think people under-estimate Porier. For me, he is the most un-tradeable non-NHL asset. We need more of him in the system. I understand the value in OEL, but I would rather have Porier than Kessel, Lucic, or whatever other NHL asset out there.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by InCoGnEtO

I think people under-estimate Porier. For me, he is the most un-tradeable non-NHL asset. We need more of him in the system. I understand the value in OEL, but I would rather have Porier than Kessel, Lucic, or whatever other NHL asset out there.

I like Poirier a lot but this is a little strong. He might turn out to be as good as those players but likely won't, simply because most don't.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

I wouldn't be surprised if the price for Talbot was a 1st, for the Oilers anyway. I said it before and I'll say it again, there are 29 GMs out there that are NOT going to be cutting the Oilers any breaks at the trade table, it will be quite the opposite IMO. Their desperation permeates the air like a teenage boy trying to find a date to the prom, rivals will surely look to capitalize on this. Everyone and their dog knows what the Oilers need, and no one is going to help them out without making them pay through the nose. Enjoy McDavid Edmonton, no one is going to want to help you build a team around him. Now would probably be a good time to figure out that whole drafting thing...

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by InCoGnEtO

I think people under-estimate Porier. For me, he is the most un-tradeable non-NHL asset. We need more of him in the system. I understand the value in OEL, but I would rather have Porier than Kessel, Lucic, or whatever other NHL asset out there.

I would say Gillies is more untradable, since he's one of the best goaltending prospects in hockey. Poirier is good, but he's not one of the best forward prospects in hockey. Plus, Gillies is the Flames' closest thing to an elite goalie of the future. Porier is behind other young offensive starts (Johnny, Monny, Sam) on the Flames.

Basically, forward prospects are easier to acquire than goalie prospects who are already a good chunk through their development.

[Incogneto]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I would say Gillies is more untradable, since he's one of the best goaltending prospects in hockey. Poirier is good, but he's not one of the best forward prospects in hockey. Plus, Gillies is the Flames' closest thing to an elite goalie of the future. Porier is behind other young offensive starts (Johnny, Monny, Sam) on the Flames.

Basically, forward prospects are easier to acquire than goalie prospects who are already a good chunk through their development.

You make some really great points.

Porier is a RW, and we are so weak with prospects at RW, as well.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

i think we should make a deal with the yotes. 15 OA + Poirier + Wotherspoon to the yotes for OEL.

Probably fair value but why do it?

15 OA = future 1st line RW or 2nd pairing D
Poirier = not-too-distant future top 6 RW
Wotherspoon = only NHL-ready defence project

3 good assets for one good player... Doesn't seem like a good deal to me.

[JohnnySkittles]

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

i think we should make a deal with the yotes. 15 OA + Poirier + Wotherspoon to the yotes for OEL.

Try subbing in Poirier with Bennett or Monahan and then they consider it.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

Probably fair value but why do it?

15 OA = future 1st line RW or 2nd pairing D
Poirier = not-too-distant future top 6 RW
Wotherspoon = only NHL-ready defence project

3 good assets for one good player... Doesn't seem like a good deal to me.

I am high on Poirier but 3 unproven prospects for a 23 year old top pairing defenceman signed for 4 more years at a decent cap hit, easy deal.

[dying4acup]

#3 overall + Mike Smith for #15 overall + Hiller?

[hockey.modern]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

#3 overall + Mike Smith for #15 overall + Hiller?

Lol

[JohnnySkittles]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

#3 overall + Mike Smith for #15 overall + Hiller?

Definitely not getting a top 3 pick that easily.

[N-E-B]

At a bar with crappy audio, anyone catch what Freidman was saying about the Flames "being aggresive"?

EDIT nm sureLoss made a thread

[sureLoss]

HNIC:

Leafs won't hire a GM before the draft.
Avs have made it known that RoR is available, likely want a defenceman back

Flames are one of the more active teams in the trade market
have made it clear they won't make any moves that inhibit them from re-signing Giordano, Monahan, and Gaudreau
have gotten calls on Hudler but want a big return

Red Wings are listening to offers on Anthony Mantha and their 19th OA pick

[FireItUp]

Elliotte Friedman: on HNIC
"Flames most aggressive on the phone"
"Teams asking about Hudler"
"Will not make deal that effect the long term signing of Gio, Monahan, Gaudreau."

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

Probably fair value but why do it?

15 OA = future 1st line RW or 2nd pairing D
Poirier = not-too-distant future top 6 RW
Wotherspoon = only NHL-ready defence project

3 good assets for one good player... Doesn't seem like a good deal to me.

Exactly. A team in a rebuild doesn't make deals like this. This is how a team becomes mediocre for a decade. All that is missing is a me-centric star player that forces management to build around him. Keep your assets and develop depth that makes your team a power because every line and every position is superior.

Originally Posted by Jacks

I am high on Poirier but 3 unproven prospects for a 23 year old top pairing defenceman signed for 4 more years at a decent cap hit, easy deal.

Trying to jump start the rebuild or what? Top teams have depth that make them superior to their competitors. That depth is found through the investment they make in drafting and developing their own talent. Giving up three top end prospects, proven or not, is a very questionable move for a team trying to improve and become a contender.

Originally Posted by JohnnySkittles

Try subbing in Poirier with Bennett or Monahan and then they consider it.

No #### they would. Any team in the NHL would. What insight.

[FireItUp]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

HNIC:

Leafs won't hire a GM before the draft.
Avs have made it known that RoR is available, likely want a defenceman back

Flames are one of the more active teams in the trade market
have made it clear they won't make any moves that inhibit them from re-signing Giordano, Monahan, and Gaudreau
have gotten calls on Hudler but want a big return

Red Wings are listening to offers on Anthony Mantha and their 19th OA pick

Should have known you'd beat me to this rumour lol.

[FireItUp]

As much as I don't want to trade Hudler(I think he's good for the kids) I'm curious to know what a guy like Hudler could fetch us?.

[JohnnySkittles]

Originally Posted by New Era

No #### they would. Any team in the NHL would. What insight.

Point being, they're not going to trade their #1 star defenseman for 3 unproven pieces. One of our big 3 would have to be included in any realistic deal.