Gas Stations Gas and Dash Incident

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Why has the media not been asking about Centex's alleged policy on staff covering gas and dash incidents? I can understand why a staff member might chase down someone if they worry about having to give up $100 to cover the incident. It isn't smart but I can see why someone would do it. It could be an entire day's salary for someone who works at the store. If anything, I'd like our government to ban that practice.

The mandatory pay at the pump doesn't really mean much to me.

Because such a policy would be illegal if it existed, and as such likely doesn't? There's been some talk about how a company might use the implied threat of charging an employee for a loss such as via a gas n'dash, but if a company actually tried to do it, they would end up in some pretty hot legal water quickly.

[Thor]

I wish they would get called out on this policy if true, that in itself should hold the company liable in part for her death being that losing out on $100 for someone struggling to make ends meet is no small thing.

The attempt by the company to blame this on legislation is just insulting, they could have at any time changed their own policy, this company needs to be called out for their employees pay out of pocket (or threat of it) because it ultimately was likely to have influenced this woman's actions.

The media needs to pick this up, how do we get this in the discussion? Twitter, emails?

[polak]

Thor, the media can't pick something up with no evidence that it is true...

[puffnstuff]

Is there a law right now that says a gas station cant just make all their pumps pay first? And not rely on the govt to legislate it. It seems silly if true. Companies lose money because people steal gas, youd think absent a law to the contrary, it would make sense for them to protect their product.

[llwhiteoutll]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Is there a law right now that says a gas station cant just make all their pumps pay first? And not rely on the govt to legislate it. It seems silly if true. Companies lose money because people steal gas, youd think absent a law to the contrary, it would make sense for them to protect their product.

Companies balance the risk of theft against the benefit of driving foot traffic into their store. Since there is not a lot of money to be made off the sale of gas, they need to get people buying things inside.

They can make it all prepay, but there is a lot of lost revenue associated with that kind of policy.

[rayne008]

Horrible story

I can't understand why, after "gassing and dashing", they stopped at the very next parking lot where the attendant obviously saw them stop at and confronted them. Why did they stop there?

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Why has the media not been asking about Centex's alleged policy on staff covering gas and dash incidents? I can understand why a staff member might chase down someone if they worry about having to give up $100 to cover the incident. It isn't smart but I can see why someone would do it. It could be an entire day's salary for someone who works at the store. If anything, I'd like our government to ban that practice.

The mandatory pay at the pump doesn't really mean much to me.

Originally Posted by Thor

I wish they would get called out on this policy if true, that in itself should hold the company liable in part for her death being that losing out on $100 for someone struggling to make ends meet is no small thing.

The attempt by the company to blame this on legislation is just insulting, they could have at any time changed their own policy, this company needs to be called out for their employees pay out of pocket (or threat of it) because it ultimately was likely to have influenced this woman's actions.

The media needs to pick this up, how do we get this in the discussion? Twitter, emails?

On the news it was said their policy is the exact opposite. Call the cops, do not engage.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Weitz

On the news it was said their policy is the exact opposite. Call the cops, do not engage.

That may be true, but the policy Thor is referring to is the alleged policy that the employee has to pay for the gas and dash out of pocket.

Slightly different context, but back in my waitering days, we used to pool a portion of tip money for dine and dashers. Not sure if it was or now is illegal, but we didn't think too much of it, as it almost never happened and we would just throw a big party occassionally with the collected money.

[polak]

That rumor could be attributed to a potential policy by the owner of that specific station. Probably an unwritten one at that.

Again, just cause a gas station is branded Centex, doesn't mean Centex owns it. Just means they sell their branded fuel (which is probably Shell, Suncor or IOL fuel anyway).

[CaptainCrunch]

Maybe she reacted because of how things are done where she came from where they confront thieves.

It doesn't matter, to me though, these punks made a decision to put her in dire danger and she died because of their decision to be punks and thieves.

The pay at the pump isn't going to make a difference to me, if someone is going to steal gas or choose to be a criminal, they're going to take a knife or a gun into the gas station and force the clerk to unlock the gas. Or they're just going to steal money and then use it to buy gas somewhere else.

The gas station isn't to blame, the policy isn't to blame, the victim isn't to blame, this is all on these two losers who made a choice to step on the gas pedal.

[darklord700]

Originally Posted by Weitz

On the news it was said their policy is the exact opposite. Call the cops, do not engage.

That's why some posters mentioned that the media hasn't picked up on this. There should be some investigative journalism done on this subject. The company will always deny it but there is enough anedotal evidence saying the otherwise.

I personally find it hard to believe that a well educated person will just jump in front of a truck if her pay wasn't in jeopardy.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by darklord700

That's why some posters mentioned that the media hasn't picked up on this. There should be some investigative journalism done on this subject. The company will always deny it but there is enough anedotal evidence saying the otherwise.

I personally find it hard to believe that a well educated person will just jump in front of a truck if her pay wasn't in jeopardy.

We see it a lot, clerks that run down shop lifters, employees that chase down thieves after armed robberies.

Sometimes people make bad decisions or ignore policy, its not always because their employers are evil and callous.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

We see it a lot, clerks that run down shop lifters, employees that chase down thieves after armed robberies.

Sometimes people make bad decisions or ignore policy, its not always because their employers are evil and callous.

I have a cashier that I had to write up after she chased a guy out of my store just 2 months after receiving a verbal warning for doing the same. Some people just hate people stealing and feel is their moral obligation to stop it

[jschick88]

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[getbak]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

I have a cashier that I had to write up after she chased a guy out of my store just 2 months after receiving a verbal warning for doing the same. Some people just hate people stealing and feel is their moral obligation to stop it

Everyone secretly wants to be Batman.

[karl262]

I worked at a gas station for years during school. My boss was great, just said if someone steals gas try to get the plate number and a description. If someone comes in to rob the place, just do what they say and hand over whatever they want. The policy binder reflected the same, but there were still a couple of people I worked with who seemed to want an incident to happen just so they can have a confrontation, even a violent one. Then whenever the station was robbed it was always when a female was working alone.

[Acey]

Charges pending, EPS presser at 4:30 pm

[Acey]

Charges for 20 year old:

- Criminal negligence causing death
- Hit and run causing death
- Dangerous driving causing death

16 year old passenger not charged.

Kinda sucks, but really he's just trying to get away, likely not kill her.

[darklord700]

Sad day for the judicial system in Canada, I'm not expecting much but there should be at the minimum a manslaghter charge.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

That doesn't sound like it would add up to much. Less than 5 years?