2014/2015 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Flash Walken]

Looks like Hamilton might have 56 million reasons to go play with McDavid.

[Sylvanfan]

Where are the Oilers going to get all this cap space? Even a 7 year 56 million deal still has Boston leaning towards matching.

[sureLoss]

7 year $56 million means 4 1st round picks. They crazy enough to do it?

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

7 year $56 million means 4 1st round picks. They crazy enough to do it?

Bruins take the four 1st rounders.

I've been reading up on the Bruins forum on this situation, and a lot of them have not been pleased with how Hamilton's defensive game has developed so far. They are obviously satisfied with his offensive production, but say he is mistake prone in his own zone.

Now, he's obviously still young so it's not a knock against him, but if anyone expects Hamilton to come in and be a #1 defenceman within the next 2 years, they may be disappointed.

Especially at the cost of four 1st round picks. He's not Weber yet.

[1qqaaz]

Perhaps the Colorado Avalanche have the desire, need, cap space, and positive outlook required to make a huge offer sheet possible.

I don't see Hamilton rejecting a 7 mill x 8 year offer.

[Cheese]

I dont see any scenario where Boston doesnt match an offer....unless it is simply stupid and handicaps the other team as well. Go Oilers! Offer 10M a year for 7 years!

[Racki]

I could be wrong but under 8.4 million is 2 firsts, 1 2nd, 1 3rd. Over 8.4 million is 4 1st rounders.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by iggysback05

I could be wrong but under 8.4 million is 2 firsts, 1 2nd, 1 3rd. Over 8.4 million is 4 1st rounders.

Any Club that is entitled to but does not exercise its Right of First Refusal
pursuant to Section 10.3 shall be entitled to obtain Draft Choice Compensation from the New
Club. The number and quality of draft choices due to the Prior Club shall be based on the
average annual value of the compensation contained in the Principal Terms (as defined in
Section 10.3(e) hereof) of the New Club's Offer Sheet (determined by dividing such
compensation by the lesser of the number of years of the Offer Sheet or five), based on the
following scale:

A $56 million 7 year deal means:
$56 million / 5 = $11.2 million AAV for compensation purposes.

For all practical purposes a team with an offer sheet can't offer more than 5 years term, or they pretty much get automatically bumped up into the next compensation bracket(s).

But who knows maybe MacT is in charge of preparing the offer sheet

[codynw]

Originally Posted by iggysback05

I could be wrong but under 8.4 million is 2 firsts, 1 2nd, 1 3rd. Over 8.4 million is 4 1st rounders.

When it comes to an offer sheet you have to divide the total salary by 5.

So let's say someone offers 7 years, $49M. That's a $7M AAV, but for offer sheet compensation purposes it becomes 49 divided by 5 = $9.8M, so four 1sts worth of compensation.

No idea why they do it that way, but yea.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by codynw

When it comes to an offer sheet you have to divide the total salary by 5.

So let's say someone offers 7 years, $49M. That's a $7M AAV, but for offer sheet compensation purposes it becomes 49 divided by 5 = $9.8M, so four 1sts worth of compensation.

No idea why they do it that way, but yea.

I think it's to prevent the backdiving contracts.

Here's the thing about Boston:

They just canned their GM. They just had a disappointing season by their standards and some of their marquee players appear to be taking a step back. Due to cap concerns, they've already had to deal away a top paring defender.

Maybe Boston is looking at a rebuild.

If for some reason they don't think Hamilton will top out as an elite defender, maybe the promise of 4 extra 1st round picks is enough to entice them to not match the offer.

Between a deal like that and the return for Lucic, Boston could be looking at a quick turnaround rebuild.

[Racki]

I stand corrected. I didn't know the total value was determined over a five year period. I thought it was calculated the same way the AAV is calculated for cap purposes.

[codynw]

If Boston was getting four 1sts from Edmonton I think they'd probably just let Dougie go.

[Lanny_McDonald]

An offer sheet by Edmonton would make sense. They would actually start to look like a powerhouse on paper. McDavid, Nugent-Hopkins and Draisatl in the middle. Hall, Eberle and Yakupov on the wings. Hamilton, Nurse, and Klefbom on the blueline. The only thing missing there is a quality goaltender.

[FBI]

Late to the party but chalk me up as another moron that wouldn't trade ferland for skinner. Perhaps a poll and separate thread?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by New Era

An offer sheet by Edmonton would make sense. They would actually start to look like a powerhouse on paper. McDavid, Nugent-Hopkins and Draisatl in the middle. Hall, Eberle and Yakupov on the wings. Hamilton, Nurse, and Klefbom on the blueline. The only thing missing there is a quality goaltender.

They have what....18-20 million in cap space for next year, they need to sign 3 d-men a goalie or two and upgrade their forwards. They'd need to offer and have Hamilton sign an offer sheet of at least 8 or 9 million (maybe 10) and have the Bruins not match. How would they fill out the rest of their roster?

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by New Era

An offer sheet by Edmonton would make sense. They would actually start to look like a powerhouse on paper. McDavid, Nugent-Hopkins and Draisatl in the middle. Hall, Eberle and Yakupov on the wings. Hamilton, Nurse, and Klefbom on the blueline. The only thing missing there is a quality goaltender.

Therein lies their issue. That is why the fans get all excited each year up in edmonton. And that is why they are consistently let down. All those players are household names but when you really start to evaluate them... Yak worst +/- in the league or something, Nuge is too small/soft to compete with the big #1/2 centres in the west, Hall has pathetic hockey sense, Eberle is a highlight reel with little other substance, too early to tell with the rest of them.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

They have what....18-20 million in cap space for next year, they need to sign 3 d-men a goalie or two and upgrade their forwards. They'd need to offer and have Hamilton sign an offer sheet of at least 8 or 9 million (maybe 10) and have the Bruins not match. How would they fill out the rest of their roster?

Now we know why McTavish is still a pert of the team. Old hair helmet is going to sign a league min contract and be the captain of the coilers!

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Full Insider Trading:
http://www.tsn.ca/video/insider-trad...ng-up-1.304214

Eric Staal's agent will meet with Ron Francis in the upcoming week to discuss his future in Carolina. Staal has 1 year left on his contract

Dubnyk negotations ongoing.
Wild are cap strapped team making it difficult.
Want to buyout Backstrom but has shoulder surgery upcoming and you cannot buyout an injured player.
Dubnyk may end up wanting more money than the Wild are willing to spend and SJ may go after him.

Vancouver having pro scouting meetings where the future of Lack and Markstrom will be decided.

Penguins have interest in Saad, but Chicago very unlikely to move him.

Brandon Sutter is 1 year from UFA and the Penguins could have him on trade talks

Chuck, Brad calling. Understand you're a bit tight on cap space. Need to move Backstrom you say? I'm sure we can work something out.

Expiring contract after this year, carry three goalies and a spare d and f each. Second round pick should be fair compensation we'll even throw in Hanowski. 50, 52 and 53 in the second round sounds about right.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by New Era

An offer sheet by Edmonton would make sense. They would actually start to look like a powerhouse on paper. McDavid, Nugent-Hopkins and Draisatl in the middle. Hall, Eberle and Yakupov on the wings. Hamilton, Nurse, and Klefbom on the blueline. The only thing missing there is a quality goaltender.

You know who else looked like a powerhouse on paper?

The 09-10 Flames.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by New Era

An offer sheet by Edmonton would make sense. They would actually start to look like a powerhouse on paper. McDavid, Nugent-Hopkins and Draisatl in the middle. Hall, Eberle and Yakupov on the wings. Hamilton, Nurse, and Klefbom on the blueline. The only thing missing there is a quality goaltender.

They're also missing any decent veterans to lead the team.