Mike Reilly will go UFA. UPD: narrows list to 2 or 3 teams

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I hate this way for college kids to jump to UFA. THe kid should do the right thing and sign with the Jackets.

Yeah the NHL needs to do something in the next CBA to prevent the college players from having an easier path to free agency than junior players.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah the NHL needs to do something in the next CBA to prevent the college players from having an easier path to free agency than junior players.

They don't, though. If Junior players want to wait 4 years before signing a contract, nothing is stopping them from going UFA.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah the NHL needs to do something in the next CBA to prevent the college players from having an easier path to free agency than junior players.

I realize it's not your job to come up with one, but what's the solution here though?

You can't really extend the years, owning a players rights for 5 (plus one past senior year) years seems like too much.

It would be amazing if they could sign contracts during school years, but the NCAA would never allow that. Would delaying the signing bonus for College guys get around that? Probably not.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

They don't, though. If Junior players want to wait 4 years before signing a contract, nothing is stopping them.

Except in junior you can sign a guy and have him continue on that path, you don't with College players. It creates more issues as guys get closer to that potential early UFA status.

[FlameZilla]

Meh... He's no Kenney Morrison.

It's a good sign that we're not in the mix for this prospect; it means we have too much depth for him to be a sure-fire NHL roster player.

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I realize it's not your job to come up with one, but what's the solution here though?

You can't really extend the years, owning a players rights for 5 (plus one past senior year) years seems like too much.

It would be amazing if they could sign contracts during school years, but the NCAA would never allow that. Would delaying the signing bonus for College guys get around that? Probably not.

I think you've touched on the solution. NCAA prospects should be allowed to sign a pre-contract agreement with their parent NHL club. It would mean they get a guaranteed payday after they graduate, but it wouldn't violate NCAA regulations whilst they're still in the college system.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I realize it's not your job to come up with one, but what's the solution here though?

You can't really extend the years, owning a players rights for 5 (plus one past senior year) years seems like too much.

It would be amazing if they could sign contracts during school years, but the NCAA would never allow that. Would delaying the signing bonus for College guys get around that? Probably not.

You've nailed it - the problem isn't the NHL - it is the NCAA.

[Street Pharmacist]

What if the rights holder has an advantage over other teams? If they sign after window the max ELC is lower or longer??

[icecube]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

Meh... He's no Kenney Morrison.

It's a good sign that we're not in the mix for this prospect; it means we have too much depth for him to be a sure-fire NHL roster player.

Holy defense mechanism, Batman!

[Bourque's Twin]

Prospects should be grateful a team chose them for their organization.
This loophole should be a top priority in the new CBA.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

Prospects should be grateful a team chose them for their organization.

Why?

[T@T]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I realize it's not your job to come up with one, but what's the solution here though?

You can't really extend the years, owning a players rights for 5 (plus one past senior year) years seems like too much.

It would be amazing if they could sign contracts during school years, but the NCAA would never allow that. Would delaying the signing bonus for College guys get around that? Probably not.

I would have it so the drafting team owns the players rights for a year after he leaves school.

The negotiation period is simply way to short the way it is and it's just too easy to wait a month to pick your favorite team or a team that promises the world(cough,edmonton,cough) plus now days every player seems to be getting 1st rounder bonus money no matter where they were drafted.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Why?

There was a day when it was considered an honor and thrill to be picked in the draft.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by T@T

There was a day when it was considered an honor and thrill to be picked in the draft.

It still is. Does that mean a kid should trade a better shot of making it as thanks???

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

It still is. Does that mean a kid should trade a better shot of making it as thanks???

Personally, I don't really blame any of these kids for using the loophole.

The league should find a way to close it though.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Personally, I don't really blame any of these kids for using the loophole.

The league should find a way to close it though.

Same. I don't think you can close it, but give an advantage to the team holding the rights might work

[Red Menace]

How about if the draft pick compensation comes from the team who signs them, at least that way it would cost the team who signed him something.

[#-3]

I don't get all of the bitching, its not a loophole. The guy literally have to wait until they are 22 to take advantage of this. the point of the entry draft is to distribute talent evenly not to make young men move somewhere they have no interest in moving to. Any North American player has the same rights to wait until they are 22 and sign with any team that will offer them a contract, there are just vary few top players who have put themselves in a situation to have a high quality of competition at 22 years old, and I think most would rather have the $4 million dollars Sean Monahan will make before he is 22 rather than waiting for free agency.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by #-3

I don't get all of the bitching, its not a loophole. The guy literally have to wait until they are 22 to take advantage of this. the point of the entry draft is to distribute talent evenly not to make young men move somewhere they have no interest in moving to. Any North American player has the same rights to wait until they are 22 and sign with any team that will offer them a contract, there are just vary few top players who have put themselves in a situation to have a high quality of competition at 22 years old, and I think most would rather have the $4 million dollars Sean Monahan will make before he is 22 rather than waiting for free agency.

Your forgetting something, players in junior have nowhere to play at age 22(or 21 for that matter) the good ones get signed before their overaged years of 20/21 or they go back to the draft, a good college player can't be signed till he leaves the corrupt NCAA. He is never forced to re-enter the draft and becomes a FA.

[albertGQ]

What about making the college players re enter the draft like unsigned CHL players

Only difference is a 4 year window vs a 2 year window