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Old 06-03-2015, 11:42 AM   #241
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It wasn't on this board, but a guy who used the handle "Harvard_Oiler" predicted the Oil would score 410 goals that season. if memory serves, they ended up with 195.
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Terry Jones wrote an article about how the oilers would be the first team to score 300 since the 90's back in 2006, the year after they went to the finals. They finished 30th in goals for that year
Fair enough, but I do remember Hrudey buying into the hype as well.
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What? Is he going to run over McDavid with a Zamboni?
No - but Ferland might!
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Twelve 20+ goal scorers like in 2006-2007
They must be counting their AHL players goals too.
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No - but Ferland might!
Ferland - Colbourne - Smith - Go get McDavid.
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The Oiler fans I have spoken to (I work with two of them) are absolutely hilarious.

They got a new GM, a new coach and McDavid so all is fixed according to them. And now way are they trading anyone either. That's crazy talk.

So delusional it is simply unbelievable.

No good.
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Speaking of Terry Jones...

While Draisaitl may now start his NHL career as a winger like Mark Messier did, this makes it very easy to develop him properly with some time in the AHL. And if they acquire a first pairing defenceman, as they must, the Oilers might be able to do the same thing with Darnell Nurse as well.

Just getting McDavid could actually help prevent the Oilers from the so-called wrecking of players during development.

What would it take to get Seth Jones away from the Nashville Predators? How about a centre not named Nugent-Hopkins or Draisaitl, a couple of prospects and a draft choice or two?

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http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/04/2...connor-mcdavid
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Speaking of Terry Jones...

While Draisaitl may now start his NHL career as a winger like Mark Messier did, this makes it very easy to develop him properly with some time in the AHL. And if they acquire a first pairing defenceman, as they must, the Oilers might be able to do the same thing with Darnell Nurse as well.

Just getting McDavid could actually help prevent the Oilers from the so-called wrecking of players during development.

What would it take to get Seth Jones away from the Nashville Predators? How about a centre not named Nugent-Hopkins or Draisaitl, a couple of prospects and a draft choice or two?

lol

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/04/2...connor-mcdavid
so stupid, they think that they're going to get Jones for what? Magic Beans.

He's a 20 year old 6 foot 4 two way top pairing guy in the short term.

The conversation would start with RNH and continue with Chia what are you adding.

Especially since GM's know that Chia is going to be negotiating from a weak position.
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so stupid, they think that they're going to get Jones for what? Magic Beans.

He's a 20 year old 6 foot 4 two way top pairing guy in the short term.

The conversation would start with RNH and continue with Chia what are you adding.

Especially since GM's know that Chia is going to be negotiating from a weak position.
Someone really needs to stop drugging their drinking water.
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It wasn't on this board, but a guy who used the handle "Harvard_Oiler" predicted the Oil would score 410 goals that season. if memory serves, they ended up with 195.
This is what irked me the most. Fans and media kept predicting this high powered, highly entertaining, high scoring offense. There was nothing, not one iota of evidence to suggest they'd be scoring tons of goals, yet the majority of media and fans kept believing it and shoving it down everyone's throat.

I remember two separate interviews with Ebs (and there are probably more) where he kept referencing their high powered offense, yet were finishing last year after year. I clearly remember one of them being the old After Hours, and Ebs why trying to make sense of how could a team as good as the oilers continually finish last all the time. They believed their own BS.
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This is what irked me the most. Fans and media kept predicting this high powered, highly entertaining, high scoring offense. There was nothing, not one iota of evidence to suggest they'd be scoring tons of goals, yet the majority of media and fans kept believing it and shoving it down everyone's throat.

I remember two separate interviews with Ebs (and there are probably more) where he kept referencing their high powered offense, yet were finishing last year after year. I clearly remember one of them being the old After Hours, and Ebs why trying to make sense of how could a team as good as the oilers continually finish last all the time. They believed their own BS.
The only thing high powered about their offense in their TDPG (Toe drags per game) stat which is through the roof. ATDPG (attempted toe drags per game) is even higher! Best in the NHL! That just has to convert to goals and wins eventually!? Doesn't it?
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This is what irked me the most. Fans and media kept predicting this high powered, highly entertaining, high scoring offense. There was nothing, not one iota of evidence to suggest they'd be scoring tons of goals, yet the majority of media and fans kept believing it and shoving it down everyone's throat.

I remember two separate interviews with Ebs (and there are probably more) where he kept referencing their high powered offense, yet were finishing last year after year. I clearly remember one of them being the old After Hours, and Ebs why trying to make sense of how could a team as good as the oilers continually finish last all the time. They believed their own BS.
I love that the media fed their egos, so much hype surrounding a team that hadn't done anything in terms of winning in the NHL. This includes TV shows, TSN riding the Eberle train after the world juniors, and multiple first overall picks. To top it all off Eberle scores a great goal on Ian White in his first game, but as far as I'm concerned they bought into what the media was saying and failed to grow as players. Year after year it was how things were changing and they'll finally be better, but that never came to fruition.

On the flip side of the spectrum, Calgary was always discredited by the media for never playing youth and not having enough youth. Many "analysts" picked them to be last this year because of their youth. Then this season comes along and its Calgary's youth who earned their spots and carried this team to the playoffs.
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Speaking of Terry Jones...

While Draisaitl may now start his NHL career as a winger like Mark Messier did, this makes it very easy to develop him properly with some time in the AHL. And if they acquire a first pairing defenceman, as they must, the Oilers might be able to do the same thing with Darnell Nurse as well.

Just getting McDavid could actually help prevent the Oilers from the so-called wrecking of players during development.

What would it take to get Seth Jones away from the Nashville Predators? How about a centre not named Nugent-Hopkins or Draisaitl, a couple of prospects and a draft choice or two?

lol

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/04/2...connor-mcdavid
So getting McDavid will make it easier to develop Draisaitl because McDavid will be thrown to the wolves instead?
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Speaking of Terry Jones...

While Draisaitl may now start his NHL career as a winger like Mark Messier did, this makes it very easy to develop him properly with some time in the AHL. And if they acquire a first pairing defenceman, as they must, the Oilers might be able to do the same thing with Darnell Nurse as well.

Just getting McDavid could actually help prevent the Oilers from the so-called wrecking of players during development.

What would it take to get Seth Jones away from the Nashville Predators? How about a centre not named Nugent-Hopkins or Draisaitl, a couple of prospects and a draft choice or two?

lol

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/04/2...connor-mcdavid
The comments to that article are precious. I especially like when they attempt to use big words. "I am not under the dissillusion...".

Or the complete and utter lack of awareness "Hall, Eberle and RNH have excelled..."
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That's beautiful.

Seth Jones for Anton Lander, some kids who can't even make the Oilers roster, and a couple of scratch tickets.
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Speaking of Terry Jones...

While Draisaitl may now start his NHL career as a winger like Mark Messier did, this makes it very easy to develop him properly with some time in the AHL. And if they acquire a first pairing defenceman, as they must, the Oilers might be able to do the same thing with Darnell Nurse as well.

Just getting McDavid could actually help prevent the Oilers from the so-called wrecking of players during development.

What would it take to get Seth Jones away from the Nashville Predators? How about a centre not named Nugent-Hopkins or Draisaitl, a couple of prospects and a draft choice or two?

lol

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/04/2...connor-mcdavid
The Oilers should be going after Roman Josi. The Predators would probably be more open to trade him over Jones and Weber. Taylor Hall should be the centerpiece of the deal on the Oilers side.
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The Oilers should be going after Roman Josi. The Predators would probably be more open to trade him over Jones and Weber. Taylor Hall should be the centerpiece of the deal on the Oilers side.
Personally, I think they trade Weber before Josi. Josi has pretty much the best contract in hockey, is young and amazing. He's like Brodie on steroids, he's the kind of guy you build a defense around for 10+ years.
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The Oilers should be going after Roman Josi. The Predators would probably be more open to trade him over Jones and Weber. Taylor Hall should be the centerpiece of the deal on the Oilers side.
the conversation about Josi starts and ends with either Hall or the first overall just based on his contract, age and skill set.

And personally any GM will tell you that trading a defenseman like that for a winger will eventually cost you your job.
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http://www.edmontonsun.com/sports/hockey/oilers

First 9 articles are about hockey that was played over 25 years ago.


Edmonton Oilers' Dynasty Ends ... with a bang

Oilers' Dynasty Ends: Oh, what it was like to be a winner!

Oilers' Dynasty Ends: Kid line sparked Stanley Cup run

Oilers' Dynasty Ends: Cam Tait remembers superfans

Oilers' Dynasty Ends: Mark 'Moose' Messier left his mark

Oilers' Dynasty Ends: Oilers were playoff underdogs

Oilers' Dynasty Ends: Bill Ranford's amazing playoff run

Throwback Thursday: 25 years since the last Oilers' Stanley Cup win!
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Personally, I think they trade Weber before Josi. Josi has pretty much the best contract in hockey, is young and amazing. He's like Brodie on steroids, he's the kind of guy you build a defense around for 10+ years.
They will never trade Weber imo because the contract was so front loaded. For a "small" market team like the Predators they are going to want to take advantage of the low dollar years of that contract.
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