Qatar has likely lost the World Cup

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Kind of ironic considering the US is one of the least passionate soccer nations in the world. But then again they're also the only ones who really seem to take sports corruption seriously

Yep. America is characterized as a corrupt plutocracy, but these big international sports scandals always seem to involve oily European aristocrats. There seems to be an acceptance in Europe that the high reaches of international sports are run by bribes and vote-buying.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

See yet another reason to hate soccer........ban it already.

I dislike the game and find it boring to watch. That said I don't understand your reason to wanting it banned.

[Swift]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Yep. America is characterized as a corrupt plutocracy, but these big international sports scandals always seem to involve oily European aristocrats. There seems to be an acceptance in Europe that the high reaches of international sports are run by bribes and vote-buying.

Nationalities of people arrested today - Cayman Islands (x2), Uruguay, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Venezuela and Brazil
Nationalities of people indicted - Argentina (x3), Paraguay, Brazil, USA and Trinidad & Tobago

Not saying that there aren't Europeans involved in this (there likely are) but framing it as a solely European issue is a big stretch.

[T@T]

So is it reasonable to think the too hot terrorist lovin Qatar will now finally loose the 22 world cup?

[stampsx2]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

See yet another reason to hate soccer........ban it already.

Suddenly, i hope it thrives.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by T@T

So is it reasonable to think the too hot terrorist lovin Qatar will now finally loose the 22 world cup?

Report on CBC last night put the number of World Cup related construction deaths in Qatar at 1200. They're basically using slave labour. That should of be reason enough.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by troutman

You have to think the IOC is shredding documents like mad tonight.

If there is any sense in the IOC, they only have to shred back to 2002. Everything before that should have been destroyed already.

[chemgear]

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/28/fo...ons-what-next/

Calling it "strange" that U.S. authorities are charging FIFA officials even though that organization is based in Switzerland, Putin hinted that something more nefarious was at play.

"This is yet another obvious attempt to spread their jurisdiction to other (countries)," he said, referring to the United States.

Putin mentioned Blatter, who is seeking a fifth term during a scheduled vote Friday, saying he has "no doubt that this is obviously an attempt to prevent Mr. Blatter's re-election (as) FIFA president."

"Our American partners use their own methods for their ulterior purposes," Putin said, noting leaks by Snowden and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange about American spying methods. "They are illegally persecuting people. I do not rule out the possibility that the same goes for this situation with FIFA."

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

If there is any sense in the IOC, they only have to shred back to 2002. Everything before that should have been destroyed already.

also I think since Jacques Rogue, the IOC has been pretty clean.

[troutman]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/spo...ter_mailonline

What MORE secrets are FIFA hiding? Sepp Blatter admits ‘more bad news will follow’ but tells football body congress corruption is not his fault as ‘I can’t monitor everyone all the time'

• Michel Platini met with FIFA president Blatter and told him to resign
• He said he was 'disgusted' by £100m corruption scandal
• But Blatter said he would not resign before Friday's presidential election
• UEFA delegates will vote for Prince Ali bin al-Hussein
• Platini would not rule out possibility of a World Cup boycott
• David Gill will resign his vice-presidency role if Sepp Blatter is elected
• British official feels he cannot work under embattled president

[troutman]

‘Fifa Nostra’: Newspapers around the world led with the Fifa scandal today

http://www.poynter.org/news/mediawir...scandal-today/

Sucio is Spanish for Dirty.

[troutman]

VIDEO: Jon Stewart delivers stunning Daily Show commentary on FIFA arrests

http://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/jon...ampaign=Buffer

Stewart jokes, 'FIFA were so bad, they got arrested by the Swiss. A country who's policy on Nazi gold was, and I quote, "We'll allow it".'

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by troutman

‘Fifa Nostra’: Newspapers around the world led with the Fifa scandal today

http://www.poynter.org/news/mediawir...scandal-today/

Sucio is Spanish for Dirty.

Fifa Nostra.

So much better than Fifagate.

[Locke]

Qatar is not losing the World Cup because Blatter isnt going to return the bribe money.

I was initially surprised that Blatter was going to run for the Presidency again, I figured he made his last outrageously big score with the Russia/Qatar awards and that he'd get the hell out of Dodge and let someone else deal with the fallout of that fiasco.

I mean, if it had been one of Russia or Qatar and one of England or USA I could see him dodging the really credible suspicion a while longer, but Russia and Qatar? That was just too much.

[FlameOn]

Apparently South Africa paid $10million in bribes to get the world cup. Nike apparently bribed $150+million over a 10 year period to be sponsor... oi. Heads will roll.

The international investigation into bribery, fraud and corruption at FIFA involved some surprising American names: The Miami chairman of a popular nationwide soccer league, and a major U.S. sportswear firm some believe could be Nike.

For more than two decades, the Justice Department said Wednesday, five "unscrupulous" U.S. and South American sports and banking executives helped funnel more than $150 million in bribes to officials atop FIFA, the multibillion-dollar goliath governing the world's most popular sport.

The indictment also alleges bribes were paid and pocketed in connection with the sponsorship of the Brazilian national soccer team by "a major U.S. sportswear company." Although investigators will not name the company, the indictment says the sportswear firm signed a 10-year, $160 million sponsorship deal with the Brazilian team in 1996, closely matching Nike’s clothes, shoes and equipment deal with the team that year.

The indictment alleges a sportswear-company official agreed three days later to allow Traffic Brazil, a sports marketing company, to charge additional "marketing fees." Traffic then invoiced the company for tens of millions of dollars more in payments over the next three years that investigators say were bribes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ion-in-bribes/

[Locke]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

Apparently South Africa paid $10million in bribes to get the world cup. Nike apparently bribed $150+million over a 10 year period to be sponsor... oi. Heads will roll.

Isnt that just being a sponsor? Why would they have to pay for the privilege to pay?

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Locke

Isnt that just being a sponsor? Why would they have to pay for the privilege to pay?

http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/28/news...fa-corruption/

The indictments unsealed Wednesday don't name Nike by name. Instead they refer to "sportswear company E" in one indictment and "sportswear company A" in another indictment as having gotten the Brazilian team sponsorship deal in 1996. And Nike is the company that got the deal in 1996 to sponsor the team and supply it with soccer shoes and uniforms.

To get the deal with the Brazilian national team, the unnamed sportswear company had to deal with the Traffic Group, a sports marketing firm whose founder Jose Hawilla has plead guilty to bribing FIFA officials in order to become the middleman between the organization and various broadcasters and sponsors who wanted to strike deals with the soccer organizations. And the sportswear company agreed to pay the Traffic Group extra to get the Brazilian sponsorship deal done, according one of the indictments unsealed yesterday.

The indictment said that contract called for the company to pay $160 million to the Brazilian team over 10 years.

"Sportswear Company A agreed to pay a Traffic affiliate with a Swiss bank account an additional $40 million in base compensation on top of the $160 million it was obligated to pay," according to the indictment. " It said Traffic also billed the company for an additional $30 million in fees between 1996 and 1999.

[ernie]

Well Nike's slogan is "Just Do It"....

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Locke

Isnt that just being a sponsor? Why would they have to pay for the privilege to pay?

I guess if they paid off the Fifa officals to score the contract, then potentially Nike would pay less overall if the contract itself isn't as much as another sponsors were offering up to Fifa.

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by ernie

well nike's slogan is "just do bribe it"....

fyp