CP Mafia 4 - The Unknown Host - Game Over!

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Timbo

Where does that leave Oling? To be investigated right? Or not because if he is turned the Captain has no choice but to kill him to get it back.

Yes investigate Oling to see if he is turned. If he isn't then he is probably town but could also be a host.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Timbo

Where does that leave Oling? To be investigated right? Or not because if he is turned the Captain has no choice but to kill him to get it back.

For me, if GirlySports was lynched, I know that the Government Agent action would be useless tonight. I would say he might as well use it on me because the spore hasn't gone anywhere but me and GirlySports.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

There are no confirmed townies in my mind other than myself and activeStick. What exactly confirms you and Oling as town? However Oling is more likely town than you.

So you don't believe Oling's explanation? The one where he said if he was turned it would be stupid for him to say.

Do you think that he had the spore all of Day 1 (turned), and then pushed this expose' of the spore in order to kill his 'target'?

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Yes investigate Oling to see if he is turned. If he isn't then he is probably town but could also be a host.

If he's the host, you think that the Captain gave the spore to his mate on Night 0?

Or did Oling never have the spore at all?

[GGG]

We win the game by lynching aliens not the turned. Until the agent is lynched we should let him deal with he turned. We can always come back and lynch oling and girly later. We don't lose any information by not lynching them, we delay getting it.

We can almost be sure now that Oling isn't an alien

I'm debating whether Sebs antagonistic style is a very advanced strategy that no scum would play that way because it would just get him lynched. Essentially by surviving a few days we'd accept him as town because of the antagonistic strategy.

I find it interesting that HG and Seb with his vote appear to be advocating a strategy that if followed to end game doesn't result in us winning.

During the day I will hunt aliens, the agents job is killing the turned.

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

For me, if GirlySports was lynched, I know that the Government Agent action would be useless tonight. I would say he might as well use it on me because the spore hasn't gone anywhere but me and GirlySports.

This is assuming you are not one of the trio of scum. If you are the GA gets nothing and cannot communicate this fact without a reveal.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

If he's the host, you think that the Captain gave the spore to his mate on Night 0?

If I was turned, I probably wouldn't have revealed I had the spore. Especially not trying to push for you to be lynched and the Government Agent to target me unless I knew the Government Agent was a non-factor (i.e. I was a turned Government Agent, I'm not).

So if I'm not telling the truth, it would only make sense if I was host and everything I said was a lie pretty much. This isn't the case, but it's fair possibility that Hockeyguy15's getting at.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

So you don't believe Oling's explanation? The one where he said if he was turned it would be stupid for him to say.

Do you think that he had the spore all of Day 1 (turned), and then pushed this expose' of the spore in order to kill his 'target'?



If he's the host, you think that the Captain gave the spore to his mate on Night 0?

Or did Oling never have the spore at all?

I do believe he isn't turned, but why would we not have the agent investigate him in case? There is no one else to investigate other than him and you.

No I don't think he is turned and is having us kill you for him. If he was turned he knows saying he passed the spore is going to get him investigated and killed.

If he's a host they have you the spore on night 0 and in that case you are turned anyway since you didn't say you got the spore yesterday. Or he's a host and you are town, and if we lynch you and you flip town he is exposed as a host.

Most likely is he gave you the spore and you turned.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Or he's a host and you are town, and if we lynch you and you flip town he is exposed as a host..

Woah, hold up. If she flips town, not that I could prove it, but that just means I sent her the spore and she didn't turn...

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

So, correct me if I'm wrong about any of this, but someone already received the spore and passed it on?

If that's the case, and assuming (50/50 here) that the passenger wasn't turned, I feel that they should reveal who they passed the spore onto and we vote out that person ridding ourselves of the spore for a day.

The captain wont have a turned person to kill, so we wont have to worry about the 50/50 spore for the night.

You proposed this strategy. You might be scum and made this plan.
The spore has no effect on you. You pass it on and get a get out of jail free card.

[Timbo]

Kind of convenient how this worked out.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Woah, hold up. If she flips town, not that I could prove it, but that just means I sent her the spore and she didn't turn...

who's scared now?

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Woah, hold up. If she flips town, not that I could prove it, but that just means I sent her the spore and she didn't turn...

Come on now, she has turned and you know it. I'm not worried for 1 second she will flip town.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Timbo

You proposed this strategy. You might be scum and made this plan.
The spore has no effect on you. You pass it on and get a get out of jail free card.

True but it still makes no sense that the hosts would pass the spore to each other on Night 0. I mean if you were scum, would you do that!?

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GGG

We win the game by lynching aliens not the turned. Until the agent is lynched we should let him deal with he turned. We can always come back and lynch oling and girly later. We don't lose any information by not lynching them, we delay getting it.

We can almost be sure now that Oling isn't an alien

I'm debating whether Sebs antagonistic style is a very advanced strategy that no scum would play that way because it would just get him lynched. Essentially by surviving a few days we'd accept him as town because of the antagonistic strategy.

I find it interesting that HG and Seb with his vote appear to be advocating a strategy that if followed to end game doesn't result in us winning.

During the day I will hunt aliens, the agents job is killing the turned.

What strategy are you talking about?

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

True but it still makes no sense that the hosts would pass the spore to each other on Night 0. I mean if you were scum, would you do that!?

It makes some sense. Scum 1 passes it to scum 2 on night zero
Introduce the plan that oling proposed. Point the finger to a player that does not have the spore.
non spore holder gets killed
spore is still out there with a 50/50 chance of infection.
Players don't know anything is wrong until day 3

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

What strategy are you talking about?

Lynching girly

[GGG]

Lynching the spore carrier. By focusing only on the spore carrier we don't go after the aliens and rely on an unturned passenger trying to give it to the spore carrier.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I do believe he isn't turned, but why would we not have the agent investigate him in case? There is no one else to investigate other than him and you.

Not necessarily.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GGG

Lynching girly

I'm all for not worrying about the infected generally, but this one fell in our lap.

The more infected means the easier for the hosts to influence the vote. I think when we are gifted a chance to take one out we should take it.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by SebC

Not necessarily.

More than likely.