CP Mafia 4 - The Unknown Host - Game Over!

[Oling_Roachinen]

Depending on how the spore and Government Agent works, I think it's safest to vote out GirlySports and get rid of it for the night.

There's still the potential for her to be scum, it was a reason I gave her the spore. Obviously the best case scenario is her lynch revealing scum and getting rid of the spore. If not a lynch would still get rid of the spore and not have to worry about what happens if the Government Agent targets the current spore carrier tonight.

If we don't lynch, GirlySports sends the spore somewhere and tomorrow we lose track of it if she had turned/was scum. Her living the night might not be indication of anything as the Government Agent could have checked me (which I mean the only 100% way we would know who he/she checked would be with a reveal), GirlySports could be scum or worst case scenario is that she was Government Agent who turned. Even if she dies, we don't appear to be certain that she doesn't get to send the spore to someone else before the Government Agent would kill her.

Vote: GirlySports

[SebC]

It is possible that we no longer have a GA, or that we won't by the time night actions come around. Something to consider.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Depending on how the spore and Government Agent works, I think it's safest to vote out GirlySports and get rid of it for the night.

There's still the potential for her to be scum, it was a reason I gave her the spore. Obviously the best case scenario is her lynch revealing scum and getting rid of the spore. If not a lynch would still get rid of the spore and not have to worry about what happens if the Government Agent targets the current spore carrier tonight.

If we don't lynch, GirlySports sends the spore somewhere and tomorrow we lose track of it if she had turned/was scum. Her living the night might not be indication of anything as the Government Agent could have checked me (which I mean the only 100% way we would know who he/she checked would be with a reveal), GirlySports could be scum or worst case scenario is that she was Government Agent who turned. Even if she dies, we don't appear to be certain that she doesn't get to send the spore to someone else before the Government Agent would kill her.

Vote: GirlySports

Why doesn't the town work together than vote on where I should send the spore? I'm open to that.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Why doesn't the town work together than vote on where I should send the spore? I'm open to that.

Well my concern would be that you're turned/scum and wouldn't actually go through with it. Losing track of the spore would be pretty brutal.

If you're passenger, I'm really sorry for this though.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Was just curious why you chose me so fast instead of Oling. Peanut asked the same thing.

Because the worst play he could do if he was infected would be to say he gave you the spore, then he is an obvious target for the agent.

If he is a host and made the claim that means the hosts gave you the spore night 0 and are serving you up to us.

You didn't/aren't acting like you weren't turned.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by SebC

It is possible that we no longer have a GA, or that we won't by the time night actions come around. Something to consider.

Good point.

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Here is what Mazrim said.



It says killed, not lynched. Maybe the Agents kill happens before the spore is passed?

Sorry for the confusion. That paragraph was supposed to say lynched. The Government Agent runs his alignment check and immediately kills a turned if found. Then the Spore is passed to the next player and they are immediately turned if the coin flip succeeds.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Well my concern would be that you're turned/scum and wouldn't actually go through with it. Losing track of the spore would be pretty brutal.

If you're passenger, I'm really sorry for this though.

If I don't go through with it then I deserve to be lynched on Day 3.

I'm making a deal with you guys, let's have a simultaneous vote. Same rules for hammer and lynch. 9 votes ends the vote, 6 votes at deadline.

Most votes I'll send the spore that way. If I don't get the spore on Night 2 then Oling is lying, wouldn't you want to know that?

I think we're now too concentrated on the spore. Let's go back to the rest of the town, leave Oling and I aside for now. Check on inactives, check on the people who voted for Active and those who voted for me and find out why.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

Sorry for the confusion. That paragraph was supposed to say lynched. The Government Agent runs his alignment check and immediately kills a turned if found. Then the Spore is passed to the next player and they are immediately turned if the coin flip succeeds.

This adds to the confusion to me. So if the GA kills a turned, the spore passes to the player pre-determined by the turned anyways?

[Hockeyguy15]

Since we can't be sure we still have the agent, or if the agent can kill before the spore is passed I'm up for voting Girly and letting the agent investigate Oling. However I doubt everyone has logged in and seen today's activity so I'll hold off voting for now, plus we can't lynch before tomorrow anyway.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by SebC

This adds to the confusion to me. So if the GA kills a turned, the spore passes to the player pre-determined by the turned anyways?

yes, unless the GA kills the spore-holder, then the spore goes back to the captain. The captain must kill an additional turned player immediately to able to pass the spore on that night, or else he must wait a day.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

If I don't go through with it then I deserve to be lynched on Day 3.

I'm making a deal with you guys, let's have a simultaneous vote. Same rules for hammer and lynch. 9 votes ends the vote, 6 votes at deadline.

Most votes I'll send the spore that way. If I don't get the spore on Night 2 then Oling is lying, wouldn't you want to know that?

I think we're now too concentrated on the spore. Let's go back to the rest of the town, leave Oling and I aside for now. Check on inactives, check on the people who voted for Active and those who voted for me and find out why.

Sorry Girly, I know you're not going to come out and say you've turned but I'm not buying what your selling.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

If I don't go through with it then I deserve to be lynched on Day 3.

I'm making a deal with you guys, let's have a simultaneous vote. Same rules for hammer and lynch. 9 votes ends the vote, 6 votes at deadline.

Most votes I'll send the spore that way. If I don't get the spore on Night 2 then Oling is lying, wouldn't you want to know that?

I think we're now too concentrated on the spore. Let's go back to the rest of the town, leave Oling and I aside for now. Check on inactives, check on the people who voted for Active and those who voted for me and find out why.

But let's say we vote send it to 'Player X', even if you did send it to 'Player X'. On Day 3 is 'Player X' going to be like "Yep, she sent it to me, I can confirm because I turned?" He's not going to say anything if he is turned, the earliest we would get that information is Day 4 and that's only if the spore-carrier didn't turn.

But if you send it to 'Player D' and he turns, we lose the spore altogether.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

Sorry for the confusion. That paragraph was supposed to say lynched. The Government Agent runs his alignment check and immediately kills a turned if found. Then the Spore is passed to the next player and they are immediately turned if the coin flip succeeds.

So the agent kill doesn't prevent the spore from being passed to the designated player.

That settles it for me, I think we should lynch Girly.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

yes, unless the GA kills the spore-holder, then the spore goes back to the captain. The captain must kill an additional turned player immediately to able to pass the spore on that night, or else he must wait a day.

Thy isn't was Maz said, he said it goes to the next player and the coin flip is done. There is no coin flip if it goes back to the captain.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Sorry Girly, I know you're not going to come out and say you've turned but I'm not buying what your selling.

You're reading too much into it, over a slight post hesitation.

I've told you everything, I'm willing to do what the town wants me to do. This is the plan most of the town wanted (exposing the spore). I think it's a big advantage at this point to know two townies and go for the rest.

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

So the agent kill doesn't prevent the spore from being passed to the designated player.

That settles it for me, I think we should lynch Girly.

Where does that leave Oling? To be investigated right? Or not because if he is turned the Captain has no choice but to kill him to get it back.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Thy isn't was Maz said, he said it goes to the next player and the coin flip is done. There is no coin flip if it goes back to the captain.

Sorry, got lynched and killed mixed up again.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

You're reading too much into it, over a slight post hesitation.

I've told you everything, I'm willing to do what the town wants me to do. This is the plan most of the town wanted (exposing the spore). I think it's a big advantage at this point to know two townies and go for the rest.

I don't think there's anyway for both of to end up being 'confirmed' town here at all.

If you are lynched and reveal scum (turned or host), I would know that there are only 3 scum members and on Night 2 there was no spore. I think it would be safe, but far from confirmed, for the rest of the town to assume that as well.

If neither of us have a cardflip, there's not a lot that should be assumed by the town.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

You're reading too much into it, over a slight post hesitation.

I've told you everything, I'm willing to do what the town wants me to do. This is the plan most of the town wanted (exposing the spore). I think it's a big advantage at this point to know two townies and go for the rest.

There are no confirmed townies in my mind other than myself and activeStick. What exactly confirms you and Oling as town? However Oling is more likely town than you.