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Old 05-19-2015, 02:41 PM   #101
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If this ownership group doesn't turn it around fast and it's been a colossal failure thus far in terms of marketing (What marketing???) and team performance this team is gone.

Not sure what to believe at this point, but i'm not burning any of my energy on the situation anymore. Results need to happen on the ice, end of story.
That is the biggest reason why they are failing. And I've already stated that I am fed up too with how unsuccessful this franchise has been. They might as well start rebuilding in a different state, because no one wants to wait 3-5 years before the Coyotes are back to winning.
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Rick Westhead @rwesthead Glendale councillors say audit of Coyotes/arena ordered June 3, 2014. Expect results in 2 weeks, will decide moves (if any) based on results
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Old 05-20-2015, 09:22 AM   #104
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Rick Westhead @rwesthead Glendale councillors say audit of Coyotes/arena ordered June 3, 2014. Expect results in 2 weeks, will decide moves (if any) based on results
So Monday then?
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Coyotes attendance, revenue dips for Glendale arena

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...rena/27792029/

A recently released city report on the arena, covering July 2014 through April 2015, gives a first look at the costs and expenses for Gila River Arena for the full hockey season. Glendale expects to lose up to $8.7 million on the arena this fiscal year, which ends June 30, said Tom Duensing, Glendale interim assistant city manager.

The Glendale City Council on Tuesday held a closed-door executive session with the city attorney to discuss the city’s position on its agreements with the Coyotes and the arena. The agenda also included discussion of which public records must be kept confidential under state and federal law.

The Coyotes have warned the city that releasing the team’s financial data would put the team at a competitive disadvantage and would violate a confidentiality clause in the agreement.

By law, the City Council cannot disclose what was said in an executive session.
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Old 05-26-2015, 03:12 PM   #106
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I would love that, but that would really wreck and semblance of symmetry in the league. It's bad enough that we have an imbalance of 14 teams to 16 teams, but a conference split of 13 to 17 would be horrible.

For geographic purposes, the NHL is still going to pull out all the stops to keep the Coyotes there.
That doesn't make any sense. The locations of the city aren't essential to drawing up the lines of the divisions or conferences. They'll figure it out if they have to. Reworking the divisions and keeping them even to relatively even is the least of their concerns.

As for trying to keep the Dogs in the Desert, well, I think even Bettman has had enough. They'll be moved if the city can get out of the lease. The thing he wants the most right now is 32 teams. That will include two expansion, and two moves. I suspect the moves will be Arizona and Florida.

It probably won't happen all at once though, so you'll see divisions reworked (or at least added to) two maybe three times yet till they get to a nice 4x8 division and 16/16 conference set up.

They'll do the best they can to keep it even, but it's going to be a bit messy for a while anyway, so I guarantee you they don't care. No getting around it. And not really a big deal anyway.
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Milwaukee is building a new arena for 2017-18

Perhaps the great state of Wisconsin could play home to the Coyotes. Makes too much sense, really.

Edit: I see this has already been mentioned. Still a great point, though.
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Old 05-27-2015, 04:39 AM   #108
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Milwaukee is building a new arena for 2017-18

Perhaps the great state of Wisconsin could play home to the Coyotes. Makes too much sense, really.

Edit: I see this has already been mentioned. Still a great point, though.
That would be great but, when the Bradley Centre was built, many thought that the NHL would be coming and it never happened. Same thing could happen again.
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Old 05-27-2015, 04:51 AM   #109
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Milwaukee is building a new arena for 2017-18

Perhaps the great state of Wisconsin could play home to the Coyotes. Makes too much sense, really.

Edit: I see this has already been mentioned. Still a great point, though.
Yeah, Milwaukee could be a good NHL city, the Admirals have always been a good draw for the AHL. maybe they could move up the road to Green Bay.

Think of the epic rivalry 10 years down the road with Chicago.

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It's my understanding that Milwaukee didn't get a team in the 1990s because Dollar Bill Wirtz was still in charge of the Blackhawks. The two cities are close enough together that Chicago would have been entitled to territorial compensation, and Wirtz wanted Dr. Evil type money – and had sufficient clout with the Board of Governors to get it. His price was so high that it amounted to a veto.

With the new generation running the Hawks, it's possible they might be more willing to let a team locate in Milwaukee. I believe they'd still be entitled to compensation, however.
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It's my understanding that Milwaukee didn't get a team in the 1990s because Dollar Bill Wirtz was still in charge of the Blackhawks. The two cities are close enough together that Chicago would have been entitled to territorial compensation, and Wirtz wanted Dr. Evil type money – and had sufficient clout with the Board of Governors to get it. His price was so high that it amounted to a veto.

With the new generation running the Hawks, it's possible they might be more willing to let a team locate in Milwaukee. I believe they'd still be entitled to compensation, however.
Ridiculous if that's the case, 100 miles apart and even different states. Milwaukee has 2 million people for christ sake. I hope that greedy prick Bill Wirtz continues to f*u* himself in the grave.
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What if I told all of you that the next arena the Coyotes play in, will be in Arizona? But not Glendale?
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What if I told all of you that the next arena the Coyotes play in, will be in Arizona? But not Glendale?
You're like my doppelganger, but in a different city
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What if I told all of you that the next arena the Coyotes play in, will be in Arizona? But not Glendale?
That'd be nice.

Doubtful it happens though. Where would it be if it were to happen?
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What if I told all of you that the next arena the Coyotes play in, will be in Arizona? But not Glendale?
where do you think they could play?
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What if I told all of you that the next arena the Coyotes play in, will be in Arizona? But not Glendale?
I would ask if you are also selling beach front property there too.
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I think the Coyotes will be playing in Orleans Arena awaiting the new rink to be done before they play in another arena in Arizona.

If things go sideways for the City and the Coyotes and Bettman moves the team to Vegas, they could play in Orleans Arena until the new one is done.
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Old 05-27-2015, 09:03 PM   #119
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What if I told all of you that the next arena the Coyotes play in, will be in Arizona? But not Glendale?
The only arena capable of hosting hockey is US Airways Arena where the Suns play, and that building just isn't a good fit for pro hockey. The team suffered playing there before the Glendale fiasco. Where is this supposed new arena going to be built? There is no land in prime locations now that Mesa has buried Riverside for the Cubs spring training complex. Unless the ASU is going to build a new facility for their new Div I team, or Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian community is going to kick in a few hundred million to build a new area for the Coyotes, there just isn't enough land in prime locations to take advantage of.
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What if I told all of you that the next arena the Coyotes play in, will be in Arizona? But not Glendale?
Nope. We've been down this road and tbe rest of us have been right all along.

Time to go!
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