Chabot, but I would actually rather go forward in the first round.
People are saying Chabot or Roy but what about Zboril? Better size than Roy and a well rounded D. For me it would be Chabot or Zboril given the need to have some size on D to handle other teams forwards.
If F put me in the Colin White camp. Bittner is intriguing but could be Nemisz 2.0 having played on a good team and a beneficiary of playing with Petan and bjorkstrand. Meier is also interesting but how msny Swiss have made it outside of G? Has bust potential IMHO. Boeser appears to have a good skillset but skating might hold him back.
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Reason: Changed my mind after noticing Boeser has skating issues
If everything about Zboril and Chabot is dead even amongst the scouts when they go to make the selection, I suppose you could give the edge to Zboril on size if you wanted to. Two inches and a couple of pounds doesn't seem like anything to favor one over the the other though. We're talking about the difference between average sized and barely above average sized.
Seems like there is better value going with a forward in the 1st round as there may still be some 2nd tier forwards from this draft available, being obviously behind McEichel, Marner, and Strome. A lot of very talented forwards, but I think outside of Werenski, Hanifin and Provorov I would be quite dissapointed if we went say Zboril, Roy or Chabot at 15 because I think there are comparable dmen in the 2nd round. IF we swing for one of the 2nd tier defencemen with our 15th or trade down, i would LOVE Brandon Carlo. 6'5, 200lbs, skates very good, plays a nhl type game already, projects to be a very physical stay at home defenseman with some hands, hard shot and above average skating ability for his size. He can skate the puck up and has offensive instincts but prefers to hold the fort down. He has the highest ceiling of any defenceman who will be going outside the top 10 in my opinion.
The reason I say there is value in taking a forward in the 1st round is you wont find Konecny, Crouse, Gruyanov, Rantanen, Meier, Svechnikov eype players in the 2nd round like you may at 15th overall. But you could argue there are some 2nd round defencemen who arent far off Roy/Chabot/Zboril.
I think we should push hard for a power forward.
Crouse should be there when we pick! Amazing since he was ranked 5th overall by a bunch of NHL scouts in the preseason. Not to mention he has fantastic chemistry with Sam Bennett. Crouse plays like a bit smaller version of hunter smith, with more skill and speed, better hands and offensive instincts.
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Seems like there is better value going with a forward in the 1st round as there may still be some 2nd tier forwards from this draft available, being obviously behind McEichel, Marner, and Strome. A lot of very talented forwards, but I think outside of Werenski, Hanifin and Provorov I would be quite dissapointed if we went say Zboril, Roy or Chabot at 15 because I think there are comparable dmen in the 2nd round. IF we swing for one of the 2nd tier defencemen with our 15th or trade down, i would LOVE Brandon Carlo. 6'5, 200lbs, skates very good, plays a nhl type game already, projects to be a very physical stay at home defenseman with some hands, hard shot and above average skating ability for his size. He can skate the puck up and has offensive instincts but prefers to hold the fort down. He has the highest ceiling of any defenceman who will be going outside the top 10 in my opinion.
The reason I say there is value in taking a forward in the 1st round is you wont find Konecny, Crouse, Gruyanov, Rantanen, Meier, Svechnikov eype players in the 2nd round like you may at 15th overall. But you could argue there are some 2nd round defencemen who arent far off Roy/Chabot/Zboril.
I think we should push hard for a power forward.
Crouse should be there when we pick! Amazing since he was ranked 5th overall by a bunch of NHL scouts in the preseason. Not to mention he has fantastic chemistry with Sam Bennett. Crouse plays like a bit smaller version of hunter smith, with more skill and speed, better hands and offensive instincts.
Love the way you think! At our pick with what will be available we will be picking a forward. The BPA! Who that is? lots of choices.
Carlo is a reach at 15. I don't want to trade down to get him. I want our 15 overall forward and package some of our picks in the second and third round to get this kid.
Yet I think Carlo will move up in the draft cause of his size. If I want him trust me other teams want him too. His upside is huge! He reminds me of Shea Weber! Not so much playing style, but his draft year. We picked Phaneuf, but Weber went in the second round and is a much better player now. That type of upside for this kid. If he doesn't pan out he is on our third paring. First pairing is a reach but possible. Second pairing huge dman that clears the net, that can skate and pass.
Not a sexy pick. You win games by having guys like this on your team.
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I think the BPA likely to be there after 10 overall will be Pavel Zacha. and he will only be available because he played only 37 games, but he had 34 really sexy points. Looks a bit like Eric Staal! I would trade a 2nd and our 15th overall pick to move up, maybe even a prospect we can afford to move on like Hanowski~ as well. Zacha should be one of the first 10 names called..but the small sample size and lack of numbers at the world juniors might see him drop. That would be the icing on the cake of a season like this. Getting a blue chip big, talented forward prospect who would probably go top 7 in the most recent drafts, at 15ish is a serious possibility this year. Im looking at you Svechnikov, Meier, Gruyanov, Zacha,
Just watched the entire video. I successfully managed to stay out of this one (the Hockey Canada recap video I managed to be in the background of a few shots).
Ahhh Centre200, not bad for a 30 year old building.
That was a fun tournament. I'd be happy with any of the players on that USA team. The respect I have for Hockey USA is huge. They run a great program that teaches players not only hockey skills, but life skills and how to be good people.
While Hockey Canada is a top notch organization, I think they'd be smart to incorporate some of Hockey USA's programming.
I could spend all day singing their praises.
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And keep in mind that he wanted to play in North Amercia bad enough to report to a remote team in the QMJHL that others have refused to report to...
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There seem to be alot of Mock Drafts with the flames selecting either Thomas Chabot or Jeremy Roy for D selections.
Not naming names on anyone that refused to report where Svechnikov did. But I'd be royally upset if we crowned a certain player as a Calgary Flame. I just don't think that attitude is fitting of a king.
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Seems like there is better value going with a forward in the 1st round as there may still be some 2nd tier forwards from this draft available, being obviously behind McEichel, Marner, and Strome. A lot of very talented forwards, but I think outside of Werenski, Hanifin and Provorov I would be quite dissapointed if we went say Zboril, Roy or Chabot at 15 because I think there are comparable dmen in the 2nd round. IF we swing for one of the 2nd tier defencemen with our 15th or trade down, i would LOVE Brandon Carlo. 6'5, 200lbs, skates very good, plays a nhl type game already, projects to be a very physical stay at home defenseman with some hands, hard shot and above average skating ability for his size. He can skate the puck up and has offensive instincts but prefers to hold the fort down. He has the highest ceiling of any defenceman who will be going outside the top 10 in my opinion.
The reason I say there is value in taking a forward in the 1st round is you wont find Konecny, Crouse, Gruyanov, Rantanen, Meier, Svechnikov eype players in the 2nd round like you may at 15th overall. But you could argue there are some 2nd round defencemen who arent far off Roy/Chabot/Zboril.
I think we should push hard for a power forward.
Crouse should be there when we pick! Amazing since he was ranked 5th overall by a bunch of NHL scouts in the preseason. Not to mention he has fantastic chemistry with Sam Bennett. Crouse plays like a bit smaller version of hunter smith, with more skill and speed, better hands and offensive instincts.
Disagree with the comment on the quality of dmen available in the second round. After Chabot Roy and Zboril, the quality of days propects falls off considerably. There are a lot of one dimensional undersized d in this draft. The three d mentioned appear to be the most rounded d out there and the quality drops off after them.
Like others have mentioned, Crouse is unlikely not available at our pick and the other f available have warts. The 3 d might be the bpa at our selection and as sexy as it might be to pick a high octane F in the first round, picking a cornerstone d isn't the worst thing in the world.
Disagree with the comment on the quality of dmen available in the second round. After Chabot Roy and Zboril, the quality of days propects falls off considerably. There are a lot of one dimensional undersized d in this draft. The three d mentioned appear to be the most rounded d out there and the quality drops off after them.
Like others have mentioned, Crouse is unlikely not available at our pick and the other f available have warts. The 3 d might be the bpa at our selection and as sexy as it might be to pick a high octane F in the first round, picking a cornerstone d isn't the worst thing in the world.
I think Travis Dermott will end up being a huge steal whoever gets him second round, absolutely love how he plays out there, reminds me of Kris Russell when he was in Med Hat.
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Just watched the entire video. I successfully managed to stay out of this one (the Hockey Canada recap video I managed to be in the background of a few shots).
Ahhh Centre200, not bad for a 30 year old building.
That was a fun tournament. I'd be happy with any of the players on that USA team. The respect I have for Hockey USA is huge. They run a great program that teaches players not only hockey skills, but life skills and how to be good people.
While Hockey Canada is a top notch organization, I think they'd be smart to incorporate some of Hockey USA's programming.
I could spend all day singing their praises.
Not naming names on anyone that refused to report where Svechnikov did. But I'd be royally upset if we crowned a certain player as a Calgary Flame. I just don't think that attitude is fitting of a king.
Don't worry, big c with skating issues need not apply.
Given your location, any insight on the top three d from the q that may be available at our pick?
I don't see the point in trading down, I'd rather trade up if anything. I guess a lot of this depends on who's available when we're picking or who they have on their lists. I wouldn't be upset if there was someone they wanted bad enough to package some picks and prospects as the top end of this draft looks really good but if it's the Flames turn to pick and there are 3-4 guys they'd be happy with picking than trading down would be smart. I like the idea of going D heavy in this draft and there are a few guys like Chabot, Carlo and Kylington that I'd be happy with.
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