Who are you voting for

[DFO]

Originally Posted by Schraderbrau

The PC government has run this province just fine for the better part of 40 years. The people of Alberta make good money, we have 0 PST and our economy has done well over my life time. Yes we are tied to O&G market and we are forced to ride those highs and lows but at least the PC government has worked to keep the O&G companies in this province to allow us to have the highs. Sure there are things that I really don’t like about how the PC’s have run but at the end of the day we do well as a province. There are a lot more goods then bads under a PC regime.

Why let facts get in the way of a good story huh?

[Schraderbrau]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

The fact that you use the term "regime" which carries negative connotations.......

I'm sorry in the future I will use friendlier words if it makes you feel better about how I refer to a government regime err.... administration.

This says it all right here (pulled from the CTV wesbite platform review):

PC, WR, LIB, & AP = No changes to royalty regime

NDP = Royalty regime review, results to be acted on within a year


Sorry for the use of the word regime twice in the above comments, it was CTV's words not mine.....

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Schraderbrau

I'm sorry in the future I will use friendlier words if it makes you feel better about how I refer to a government regime err.... administration.

This says it all right here (pulled from the CTV wesbite platform review):

PC, WR, LIB, & AP = No changes to royalty regime

NDP = Royalty regime review, results to be acted on within a year


Sorry for the use of the word regime twice in the above comments, it was CTV's words not mine.....

[FLAMESRULE]

Originally Posted by Schraderbrau

I'm sorry in the future I will use friendlier words if it makes you feel better about how I refer to a government regime err.... administration.

This says it all right here (pulled from the CTV wesbite platform review):

PC, WR, LIB, & AP = No changes to royalty regime

NDP = Royalty regime review, results to be acted on within a year


Sorry for the use of the word regime twice in the above comments, it was CTV's words not mine.....

All this proves is that you need a dictionary.

re·view
rəˈvyo͞o/
noun
1.
a formal assessment or examination of something with the possibility or intention of instituting change if necessary.

[terminator]

Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE

All this proves is that you need a dictionary.

re·view
rəˈvyo͞o/
noun
1.
a formal assessment or examination of something with the possibility or intention of instituting change if necessary.

The possibility is detrimental enough.

Go ahead, and view how the stocks of companies have gained value over the past 2 weeks. Compare companies with bulk holdings in SK vs AB.

[Weitz]

Shhhh were working in the what if world. Not the real world.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by terminator

The possibility is detrimental enough.

Go ahead, and view how the stocks of companies have gained value over the past 2 weeks. Compare companies with bulk holdings in SK vs AB.

This is almost verbatim what Republicans were saying prior to the last presidential election. Then what happened?

[EldrickOnIce]

Anyone but NDP

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Muta

Agreed. I think Alberta needs to become an energy leader, not necessarily an oil and gas leader. Now is the time to start thinking about the long-term future and making the necessary changes to start accommodating that investment.

Can we elect you? Honestly I'm sure we have all talked about this in the past but how is this not a major talking point for our politicians talk about.

Why isn't their a healthy R&D economy for alternative energy transmission and storage.

Why are their design firms for solar/wind.

I fully understand the reason behind the lack of manufacturing, but investing in the other 2 is really how Alberta will protect itself from the market exposure they are currently subject to. Its not going to be by building pipelines or refineries, those just focus the economy even more increasing our exposure.

[FLAMESRULE]

Originally Posted by terminator

The possibility is detrimental enough.

That "possibility" is called fear of the unknown. How about we wait and see what happens both tomorrow and after a review. The oil isn't going anywhere. Let's make sure we are getting a fair amount.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by #-3

Can we elect you? Honestly I'm sure we have all talked about this in the past but how is this not a major talking point for our politicians talk about.

Why isn't their a healthy R&D economy for alternative energy transmission and storage.

Why are their design firms for solar/wind.

I fully understand the reason behind the lack of manufacturing, but investing in the other 2 is really how Alberta will protect itself from the market exposure they are currently subject to. Its not going to be by building pipelines or refineries, those just focus the economy even more increasing our exposure.

Haha thanks man I don't think we need to bury O+G investment, but rather start diversifying our focus into sustainable and alternative energy sources. Imagine if Alberta became a research and development hotbed in 10 years for all things energy. Oil and gas would still be supported, but we'd also be attracting top research talent for energy solutions across the board, and Calgary becomes a municipal hub for future-thinking innovation and ideas.

We really could be the energy-focused 'Silicon Valley', and it's staring us right in the face.

Example: I believe the Alberta government should work with Tesla to implement charging stations across Alberta, and be a leader in investing in electric technologies that can benefit the everyday Albertan through increasingly practical means. The government doesn't have to be an evil entity that opposes change and bold ideas. In fact, if we elect the right leaders and get our long-term priorities in line, the government can be the total opposite.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Muta

Haha thanks man I don't think we need to bury O+G investment, but rather start diversifying our focus into sustainable and alternative energy sources. Imagine if Alberta became a research and development hotbed in 10 years for all things energy. Oil and gas would still be supported, but we'd also be attracting top research talent for energy solutions across the board, and Calgary becomes a municipal hub for future-thinking innovation and ideas.

We really could be the energy-focused 'Silicon Valley', and it's staring us right in the face.

Example: I believe the Alberta government should work with Tesla to implement charging stations across Alberta, and be a leader in investing in electric technologies that can benefit the everyday Albertan through increasingly practical means. The government doesn't have to be an evil entity that opposes change and bold ideas. In fact, if we elect the right leaders and get our long-term priorities in line, the government can be the total opposite.

Yes please!

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE

All this proves is that you need a dictionary.

re·view
rəˈvyo͞o/
noun
1.
a formal assessment or examination of something with the possibility or intention of instituting change if necessary.

With all due respect, one must be living under a rock not to think that an NDP review would equal increased royalty rates. The question is not whether Notley would jack up the rates. The questions are whether it is appropriate to do so, by how much, and when.

[Ozy_Flame]

I agree with Muta, Alberta should be the mecca for clean and efficient non-renewables, and the leading innovator for alternative energies. And I think we have a good start on that, including Capital Power Corporation's Halkirk farm and TransAlta's Soderglen farm. We also have the Enerkem Biofuels plant in Edmonton, which falls in sync with Alberta's Nine Point Bioenergy Plan. That said, we are lagging behind in solar/alternative energy output and development compared to Ontario and Quebec. Alberta should not be lagging behind these other provinces; we should be leading them.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Muta

Haha thanks man I don't think we need to bury O+G investment, but rather start diversifying our focus into sustainable and alternative energy sources. Imagine if Alberta became a research and development hotbed in 10 years for all things energy. Oil and gas would still be supported, but we'd also be attracting top research talent for energy solutions across the board, and Calgary becomes a municipal hub for future-thinking innovation and ideas.

We really could be the energy-focused 'Silicon Valley', and it's staring us right in the face.

Example: I believe the Alberta government should work with Tesla to implement charging stations across Alberta, and be a leader in investing in electric technologies that can benefit the everyday Albertan through increasingly practical means. The government doesn't have to be an evil entity that opposes change and bold ideas. In fact, if we elect the right leaders and get our long-term priorities in line, the government can be the total opposite.

I was kinda joking, unfortunately I know allot of people who could do allot of good for the government if they were allowed to go there and work. But unfortunately there are allot of people vary invested in stopping those from doing anything positive with government positions,

Agreed I was not really talking about burying O&G investment. Just saying that adding refining to the economy seems to viewed as diversification by some in Alberta.

Like I said I really believe the future is in improving the way we get energy from point a to point b, and how we store energy. The biggest problem with wind/solar are that you can't control when, where or how much power you are collecting. Better Power Lines, and ways to store energy to be released in a controlled fashion are vital to moving away from oil and gas. It would save post fossil fuel Alberta from some pretty rough years if Alberta based companies controlled some of that tech.

You never hear about Protecting Lithium as a resource, Aluminum Batteries, Blue Diesel or Pneumatic energy storage coming out of Alberta. (just a few examples where people are trying to effect change in the energy market right now) Its a really good question why that is not a focus for economic growth in Alberta long term.

[Frank MetaMusil]

^^
Serious question, what do you mean by "post fossil fuel" Alberta? When it runs out, or when alternatives are viable enough to use 100% of the time?

[FLAMESRULE]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

With all due respect, one must be living under a rock not to think that an NDP review would equal increased royalty rates. The question is not whether Notley would jack up the rates. The questions are whether it is appropriate to do so, by how much, and when.

Nothing is guaranteed. But we have to be open enough to consider it. I see absolutely nothing wrong with a review, and like you said it depends on appropriateness of the recommendations before I throw them under the bus.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

^^
Serious question, what do you mean by "post fossil fuel" Alberta? When it runs out, or when alternatives are viable enough to use 100% of the time?

When alternative are as easy to use and economical.

Running out of Fossil Fuels isn't really in the cards for us. The planet would go to complete S*** before that would happen. Extraction tech keeps getting better and we keep realizing there is way way more down there than we thought there was.

But being in my late 20's I truly believe there will be a time in my life in witch something other than oil will be the most economically viable option. Usually you have to go looking for oil and then move it. Most other options we are looking at, Sun/Wind mainly will come right you if you have the means of storing it.

I'm not one of those who thinks some switch will be flipped and over night we will be some hemp wearing, rabbit eating, wind powered society. But low maintenance and logistics costs will over take oil one day in the next 50 or so years.

[jammies]

I'm going to vote Liberal as the guy in my riding (Khan) was the only one who dropped off any literature and came to my building. I'd pretty well vote for Satan if he had a good chance of ensuring the PCs lost the election - I've been waiting for this since the misrule of Ralph Klein.

[Hatter]

Voting NDP in Edmonton-Strathcona.