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Old 04-30-2015, 11:12 AM   #601
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The GT-R is an engineering marvel no doubt, but I can't bring myself to like thing. To me, it looks like a fat bloated pig, and has none of the beauty and grace of the NSX (or the understate quality of the Skylines before it). The GT-R just comes across as a Walmart special...lots of quantity, not a ton of quality. The whole video-game-on-wheels vibe about it just doesn't appeal to me whatsoever.

Having said, Im sure it's a future classic....to all the kids who can't drive a stick.
LOL lemme guess, you drive a ford fiesta?

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Old 04-30-2015, 11:22 AM   #602
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A lot of aftermarket ground effects/body pieces (or whatever you want to call them) are really really crappy. Definitely do your research as some may require extra body work just to make them fit. Obviously your front ground clearance will be reduced too. You could also look at pick n pull type places but that will tough as most cars have front end damage.
Yeah I won't be doing anything until I get a second car for winter as I don't want to be driving a plow and have the lip inevitably be ripped off.

Another reason I don't want to get a new bumper (and am not considering used) is I don't want to lose the 3M if I can.
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Old 04-30-2015, 11:23 AM   #603
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LOL lemme guess, you drive a ford fiesta?
I wish! From all the accounts, the ST is awesome fun.
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I wish! From all the accounts, the ST is awesome fun.
Would own one if Ford didn't have ####ing 7% financing.
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Old 04-30-2015, 11:26 AM   #605
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On a side note, anyone feel like modern cars are more difficult to see out of these days? Like, thicker pillars blocking view etc vs older cars or something weird like that?
Yes, very much so. When I get in my wife's Matrix (and the 4-Runner to a lesser extent) after driving the 911, I am constantly shocked how bad the visibility is. Huge pillars (because of the stupid airbags), high doors and terrible rear blind spots. Never mind the fact you can't see the nose of that car, which makes it difficult to place it on the apex

I can't believe designers don't focus more on this. No, let's put in 20 airbags so that WHEN you get in an accident, you won't get hurt.

How about reducing the chances of an accident by improving visibility. I say get rid of all airbags, they give people a sense of invulnerability which causes them to drive beyond their limits

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Poor visibility is the top reason Im not a fan of most new cars. They all have huge pillars, and tiny windows...which to me is a horrendously unsafe combination. Driving a tank might be great when you hit stuff, but how about preventing a hit in the first place? No wonder they are making backup cameras mandatory in the US.

My wife V50 is relatively window friendly (especially compared to the new V60), but it has some massive pillars at the front, and not a month goes by where the drivers side pillar hides a pedestrian. Ive actually almost come close to hitting a few people because of it, and now I hate to physically lean forward and look around the thing every time I pull out of a driveway or make a left turn at in intersection.
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On a side note, anyone feel like modern cars are more difficult to see out of these days? Like, thicker pillars blocking view etc vs older cars or something weird like that?
Ever try driving an FJ Cruiser? Good lord.
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I rented a Dodge Magnum wagon a few years ago, and it was like driving with your eyes half closed. I've found Dodge to have the worst visibility generally. The Imprezza does a pretty good job though.
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Ever try driving an FJ Cruiser? Good lord.
That might explain why they always seem to be driven by complete ***holes all the time. Simply have no idea what is around them.
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That might explain why they always seem to be driven by complete ***holes all the time. Simply have no idea what is around them.
It's unbelievable. Might as well drive around wearing a pair of these.

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I rented a Dodge Magnum wagon a few years ago, and it was like driving with your eyes half closed. I've found Dodge to have the worst visibility generally. The Imprezza does a pretty good job though.
Dodge and Chrysler are terribad. You need a backup, side, and windshield camera with those.
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The only car I've driven with a side camera was the Crosstour and I found it super distracting. Maybe you get used to it but if I'm changing lanes to the left I want to be looking there, not at a screen on my dash.
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Old 04-30-2015, 01:22 PM   #613
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That is one awesome looking car.
Said no one over 16 ever.....
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Old 04-30-2015, 01:32 PM   #614
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Dodge and Chrysler are terribad. You need a backup, side, and windshield camera with those.
Haha, very true. My 300C AWD (RIP, baby, daddy still loves you) was the worst at a red light. I'd have to lean into the passenger seat and look up with my head sideways just to watch for the light to turn green.
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Said no one over 16 ever.....
pfft. Said only people who had an 8-Track in their first car.

These are all examples of beautiful cars:






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I absolutely despite those body kits. All of them. Just heinous. That infiniti looks downright stupid. The Suby looks like someone deflated it.
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I absolutely despite those body kits. All of them. Just heinous. That infiniti looks downright stupid. The Suby looks like someone deflated it.
We're back on the same page, man.
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pfft. Said no one who had an 8-Track in their first car.

These are all examples of beautiful cars:
Spoiler!

oh god it is all making sense now.
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I look at that Infiniti and I think, "Is it a vacuum cleaner? It looks like it's going to vacuum up debris off the street."
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You're all old.

Edit: The Infiniti is a bit much. That suby is clean as can be though.
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