04-28-2015, 03:48 PM
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#1841
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Franchise Player
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Backlund is NOT a "middle of the road" part. He is integral to the team's success and is Selke material. You absolutely MUST have this kind of player to win in the playoffs.
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Selke material. Well he does play in the NHL so I guess technically you are correct.
Non physical, non offensive, can't win faceoffs, above average D center? Yup those are crucial for playoff runs and tradeable to MVP centers!
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04-28-2015, 03:50 PM
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#1842
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NB
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Backlund is absolutely not Selke material. He's a very solid 2 way center, but not that high of a level.
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04-28-2015, 04:05 PM
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#1843
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Franchise Player
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Elliotte Friedman@FriedgeHNIC41m41 minutes ago
Hearing free-agent F Artem Panarin, who led KHL champion St. Petersburg in scoring, is getting close to joining the Chicago Blackhawks.
The rich get richer.
Elliotte Friedman@FriedgeHNIC39 mins39 minutes ago
Do believe CAL (as @reporterchris mentioned), MON & TOR were among those interested. Panarin liked the fit in CHI best.
Last edited by Ashasx; 04-28-2015 at 04:07 PM.
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04-28-2015, 04:33 PM
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#1844
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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So it does look like the Flames did send their scout to St. Petersberg to watch Panarin a few weeks ago.
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04-28-2015, 04:37 PM
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#1845
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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I hope we use all our picks. Try to have extra picks every year.
Keep the cupboard full, and you will be an annual playoff contender.
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04-28-2015, 04:55 PM
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#1846
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Sucks that we were in on another good player. Oh well, I'm glad we're swingin'.
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04-28-2015, 04:56 PM
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#1847
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Friedman on 960 says the Flames made a big offer for Panarin.
According to Friedman, main reason Panarin passed on the Flames because he was concerned with the number of small guys on the team and wasn't sure how much a role he would have with so many small guys.
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04-28-2015, 05:11 PM
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#1848
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Makes sense. Flames aren't going to be letting Huds or Gaudreau go any time soon and smaller skilled FWs are going to need top line minutes to really be effective.
Still curious if the Flames were courting Tikhonov as well .
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04-28-2015, 05:13 PM
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#1849
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by troutman
I hope we use all our picks. Try to have extra picks every year.
Keep the cupboard full, and you will be an annual playoff contender.
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Ditto.
With how this draft is being compared to previous drafts, our 2nd round picks could be absolutely HUGE for our organization.
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04-28-2015, 06:06 PM
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#1850
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Self-Suspension
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Originally Posted by Spencemid
if he was a free agent willing to come here, that would most certainly not be a bad idea
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that's debatable. He'll steal a spot from Monahan, Backlund, Bennett, Jooris or Colborne. All guys that are much younger than Malkin. Are we putting him on the 4th line instead of Stajan? Bringing him in just stunts the growth of players he steals a spot from and then gives it back in a few years.
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04-28-2015, 06:21 PM
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#1851
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by AcGold
that's debatable. He'll steal a spot from Monahan, Backlund, Bennett, Jooris or Colborne. All guys that are much younger than Malkin. Are we putting him on the 4th line instead of Stajan? Bringing him in just stunts the growth of players he steals a spot from and then gives it back in a few years.
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Really? Outside of Bennett and Monahan, Every one of those players are replaceable by Malkin. It's funny how a 28 year old player gets skipped over. Malkin's a stud player plain and simple. He'd make the Flames better exponentially for years.
Jooris is 24, Colborne is 25 and Backlund is 26. I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if any of them were replaced by Malkin.
This is ridiculous.
Anyhow, this is all moot as Malkin isn't getting traded. Everyone in the Pittsburgh media is saying so. Only people who think it's a possibility are the guys getting paid to drum up stories for the national media.
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04-28-2015, 06:21 PM
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#1852
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AcGold
that's debatable. He'll steal a spot from Monahan, Backlund, Bennett, Jooris or Colborne. All guys that are much younger than Malkin. Are we putting him on the 4th line instead of Stajan? Bringing him in just stunts the growth of players he steals a spot from and then gives it back in a few years.
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This is ridiculous now. I've read a few posts re: Malkin now and don't want him here because the cost would be too much. But seriously, you're worried about him stealing Backs or Stajan or Jooris' spot?
If Malkin comes here he'd an instant #1 center. Love Mony but Malkin is Malkin.
I doubt the Pens want picks or prospects if they decide to move him. They'd like to get 2-3 guys who can play now but their combined salary is around what Malkin was making. For that reason we're not a match.
Here are some ideas if they make him available:
Nashville: Ryan Ellis + Colin Wilson + Craig Smith
St.Louis: Alex Steen + David Backes + Carl Gunnarsson
San Jose: Tom Hertl + Justin Braun + Marleau?
Some ideas, give and take picks and prospects.
If he's available he would command a hefty return and be that teams #1 center.
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04-28-2015, 06:28 PM
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#1853
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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doubt they move him anyway. Feels a bit like groundhog day ... every year they crash and burn in the playoffs and a few days later the "Malkin is shopped" rumours pop up, yet they've never moved him. Don't see how this year is any different.
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04-28-2015, 06:41 PM
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#1854
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Exp: 
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Do you guys think Treliving, who is the GM, will send out a couple of offer sheets this summer? I know BB's opinion on this, tis why I am asking. The Bleacher Report Article (Apr 23rd) "Predicting what players will get offer sheets" (apologies no link) there are a couple of intriguing possibilities out there for sure. Hamilton or Tiffoli would work. Both Boston and LA in salary cap trouble.
Do they resign Bouma, Backland, Byron and Ramo? I don't want to lose Ramo for nothing. I'm thinking yes to Backland, Bouma & Byron, while Ramo probably walks. Perhaps they could trade Ramo's rights.
Last one. I'm liking Bennett on the wing. Does he stay there next year? It would help the situation of too many centers currently in the system and keep a spot open for Backland or Shore or Jooris or Arnold or Stajan or Byron or ... Trade Raymond, keep Bouma and Bob's ur uncle. Left side is complete. JG, Bennett, Bouma, Ferland, (Byron?). Ewwww, thats a Bingo, in by best Hans Landa impersonation.
Personally, I would like BT to try and acquire ROR or Coyle, I'm all in for that. I think the money/budget is there and BT can make it work for all key assets going forward. Both these guys play C/RW and are the right age. I read some of the opinions here about keeping ROR away from our young guys because of the Colorado contract thing, but I don't buy that argument. Besides the Flames/Feaster is partially responsible for that.
I think the draft is going to be very busy one for the Flames. Trades of players and draft pics. I cant believe that I actually get to say this but there are TOO MANY good assets on the team AND waiting in the wings. What an exciting time to be a Flames Fan.
GFG!! Duck hunting if fun. Flames in 6.
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04-28-2015, 07:03 PM
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#1855
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by 5by5
Do you guys think Treliving, who is the GM, will send out a couple of offer sheets this summer? I know BB's opinion on this, tis why I am asking. The Bleacher Report Article (Apr 23rd) "Predicting what players will get offer sheets" (apologies no link) there are a couple of intriguing possibilities out there for sure. Hamilton or Tiffoli would work. Both Boston and LA in salary cap trouble.
Do they resign Bouma, Backland, Byron and Ramo? I don't want to lose Ramo for nothing. I'm thinking yes to Backland, Bouma & Byron, while Ramo probably walks. Perhaps they could trade Ramo's rights.
Last one. I'm liking Bennett on the wing. Does he stay there next year? It would help the situation of too many centers currently in the system and keep a spot open for Backland or Shore or Jooris or Arnold or Stajan or Byron or ... Trade Raymond, keep Bouma and Bob's ur uncle. Left side is complete. JG, Bennett, Bouma, Ferland, (Byron?). Ewwww, thats a Bingo, in by best Hans Landa impersonation.
Personally, I would like BT to try and acquire ROR or Coyle, I'm all in for that. I think the money/budget is there and BT can make it work for all key assets going forward. Both these guys play C/RW and are the right age. I read some of the opinions here about keeping ROR away from our young guys because of the Colorado contract thing, but I don't buy that argument. Besides the Flames/Feaster is partially responsible for that.
I think the draft is going to be very busy one for the Flames. Trades of players and draft pics. I cant believe that I actually get to say this but there are TOO MANY good assets on the team AND waiting in the wings. What an exciting time to be a Flames Fan.
GFG!! Duck hunting if fun. Flames in 6.
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Backlund + 2nd for RoR (if RoR signs an extension before the deal is finalized).
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04-28-2015, 07:27 PM
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#1856
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by dammage79
This is ridiculous.
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The entire discussion was ridiculous right from the get go.
One person speculates the Pens could move Malkin and dozens of posts about him coming to Calgary ensue.
He's not a UFA, so we'd need to give up huge assets to get him, completely and utterly counterproductive to our rebuild.
Why is it even being discussed?
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04-28-2015, 07:35 PM
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#1857
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
The entire discussion was ridiculous right from the get go.
One person speculates the Pens could move Malkin and dozens of posts about him coming to Calgary ensue.
He's not a UFA, so we'd need to give up huge assets to get him, completely and utterly counterproductive to our rebuild.
Why is it even being discussed? 
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Because it's a discussion board?
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04-28-2015, 07:41 PM
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#1858
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
The entire discussion was ridiculous right from the get go.
One person speculates the Pens could move Malkin and dozens of posts about him coming to Calgary ensue.
He's not a UFA, so we'd need to give up huge assets to get him, completely and utterly counterproductive to our rebuild.
Why is it even being discussed? 
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Well, quoting my whole post would be useful.
It is pointless. But lets not pretend that adding Malkin would be counterproductive to the Flames rebuild.
Quite the contrary. But as I said n my first post. It's all moot, hes not getting traded.
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04-28-2015, 07:45 PM
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#1859
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Anduril
Because it's a discussion board?
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Why not discuss trading for Crosby too? Pretty much the same chance of it actually happening.
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Originally Posted by dammage79
But lets not pretend that adding Malkin would be counterproductive to the Flames rebuild.
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Considering what we'd need to give up, it absolutely would be.
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04-28-2015, 07:45 PM
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#1860
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
Why not discuss trading for Crosby too? Just as likely.
Considering what we'd need to give up, it absolutely would be.
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Stop cherry picking my posts.
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