Canucks recall Baertschi. Update: expected to play in Game 5

[CKPThunder]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Like the starting goalie that took us to the playoffs and a defenseman who showed some real flashes of skill before getting injured.

Seriously...where do you come up with these things?

BTW, who the heck are you even talking about?

I think EE was talking about Swiss players drafted by the Flames. The two who pop into mind are Baertschi and Ramholt.


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[ben voyonsdonc]

Ramholt was drafted in 2003. I think we should have gotten over that one by now.

I guess we should avoid Swedish players because of Tom Erixon, Canadian players because of Chucko, Fata, and Howse, and Russian players because of Medvedev.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by CKPThunder

I think EE was talking about Swiss players drafted by the Flames. The two who pop into mind are Baertschi and Ramholt.


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Yeah I assumed most people would pick up on that. I don't apologize for my comments flying over the heads of some posters.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah I assumed most people would pick up on that. I don't apologize for my comments flying over the heads of some posters.

You probably should apologize for making absolutely asinine comments.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by CKPThunder

I think EE was talking about Swiss players drafted by the Flames. The two who pop into mind are Baertschi and Ramholt.


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There was a interesting interview about how Swiss players are expect to be given a a chance by being given the position first then earning it (similar to Nino Niederrater)

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

You probably should apologize for making absolutely asinine comments.

Listen. Just because a post flies over your head it doesn't mean it's asinine. Please take it to PM as I'm sure nobody else is reading this thread to see you try and start an argument over nothing.

[ben voyonsdonc]

We've got two Swiss players on our team right now. Both have been consummate professionals.

I don't buy the idea of using the country that someone was born in as a way to determine what type of person they are.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Listen. Just because a post flies over your head it doesn't mean it's asinine. Please take it to PM as I'm sure nobody else is reading this thread to see you try and start an argument over nothing.

It didn't fly over my head Erick. It was an asinine comment and I challenged you on it.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

It didn't fly over my head Erick. It was an asinine comment and I challenged you on it.

And you lost. Move on.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Yeah...because posting is a game of wins and losses.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

You probably should apologize for making absolutely asinine comments.

Just put him on ignore...he typically flies in with a barb and then insults. Just don't bother with it.

[ben voyonsdonc]

So if the next Crosby/McDavid/Gretzky is coming out of Switzerland, we should avoid him? That is ludicrous.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CKPThunder

I think EE was talking about Swiss players drafted by the Flames. The two who pop into mind are Baertschi and Ramholt.


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I recall there was another that didn't turn out. A mid-round pick named Emanuel Peter. He seemed promising for a short period of time but wouldn't sign and come over. I don't think he ever amounted to much anyway.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by heep223

Just put him on ignore...he typically flies in with a barb and then insults. Just don't bother with it.

I actually don't do that but carry on doing exactly what you accuse me of.

[Moderator]

How about you both knock it off?

[GreenLantern2814]

2 years in a row, we have fleeced a rival for a 2nd round pick at the deadline for a player that has 'potential' but is straight up a liability at this level.

Berra, Baertschi. Which problem child goes next year?

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

2 years in a row, we have fleeced a rival for a 2nd round pick at the deadline for a player that has 'potential' but is straight up a liability at this level.

Berra, Baertschi. Which problem child goes next year?

I can't really think of one. Maybe a player like Granlund who seems to have moments where he looks like an NHLer but, at other times, he doesn't seem to belong.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

I can't really think of one. Maybe a player like Granlund who seems to have moments where he looks like an NHLer but, at other times, he doesn't seem to belong.

Granlund had 18 points in 48 games while being recalled and assigned to Adirondack what, six or seven times? I can see him being moved, but as part of a package for a top-4 defenseman.

His development hasn't stagnated, and I think he's going to be a really useful NHL player. Just not better than Monahan/Bennett/Backlund/Jankowski etc

[Azure]

I think the development of players like Moneyhands, Bennett and Johnny Hockey make people expect that our other young players will develop just as fast.

Giordano, who is possibly the best defensemen in the NHL didn't break out till much later in his career.

[Phanuthier]

I really like what I see from Granlund when he is on his game, and when he is off he isnt really that bad... I think we would regret dealing him if we did.